A321 virtual cockpit preview

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A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Alexis » 20 Jun 2011, 14:50

In the works for a long time, the A321 Virtual cockpit.
Feaetures being worked on/considered are:
-Complete cockpit, wingview and first class cabin with all FS9 standard animations
- All animations visible in the exterior model will be visible from the interior
-3D analog instruments where possible
-Movable armrests and trays in the cockpit, as well as pax tray tables
-Windshield wipers
-Openable cockpit windows (modeled, but being considered)
-Window rain effects
-Emissive cockpit and cabin lighting -flood lights will be controlled by toggling the landing lights
-Baked shading in many of the textures
-Inflight entertainment system (with startup screen) showing GPS info regarding the position, altitude and ETA
-Usable luggage stows and possibly window shades (still thinking it's not of much use)
-Mappable FMC in virtual cockpit in case you want to use one of the available ones

There are also a few crazy ideas circling around my mind, but can't be disclosed here. Once the above basic features work and performance's OK, I'll get on to them.
Features are not considered final, although most are implemented and working in the A380VC already.

Here's a couple of untextured shots to whet your apetite.

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Post by ZmocE » 20 Jun 2011, 14:55

Awesome! Looks great, cant wait! =)

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Post by Camiz757 » 20 Jun 2011, 15:00

Looks brilliant!

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Post by HeathrowHD » 20 Jun 2011, 15:03

Lovely modeling you guys got going on! Hoping we will see the A380 VC Released first?

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Post by Alexis » 20 Jun 2011, 15:09

HeathrowHD wrote:Hoping we will see the A380 VC Released first?
That's the case. Don't ask for any dates though.

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Post by FLYPHOENIX » 20 Jun 2011, 15:46

shiiiiiit! amazing guys, you really went the extra mile!

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Elmar » 20 Jun 2011, 16:14

Wow ... this is really amazing! :D You do a great job and your Addons make lots of fun to fly! Well, if you build a A321 virtual cockpit, so is there a possibility for the upcoming A320 2.1 and perhaps for a reworked A319 or even A318? ^^ And a more serious question is, will you make a complete A32x interior or can we choose like the A380 between a cabin model and a future vc model?

Best regards,
Elmar

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by futurepil » 20 Jun 2011, 16:17

Oh..my.. god...
Fantastic!

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Post by Lufthansa 007 » 20 Jun 2011, 16:22

nice, but why do you start so many projects at the same time :| ??
I mean the A380 VC isn't "progressing very well" - slightly said - and I see it's release in far far future LOL

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Post by Alexis » 20 Jun 2011, 16:32

Lufthansa 007 wrote:nice, but why do you start so many projects at the same time :| ??
I mean the A380 VC isn't "progressing very well" - slightly said - and I see it's release in far far future LOL
Keep on topic. The projects are progressing independently and the 380VC is in its final stages. The thing is that time is VERY limited for all the involved parties, thus the progress is slow.

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by FLIGHTCOMPANY » 20 Jun 2011, 17:21

Excuse me while I change my pants!

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by sknepper » 20 Jun 2011, 17:58

Looking very good there Alexis. Lovely attention to detail in the cockpit there. Hmm, hmm, I am very impressed. Also the cabin is looking nice. Love the chairs, a real first class look with the screens. Looks like they're top-quality leather finished :) . Keep it up :) .

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Post by A321flyer » 20 Jun 2011, 23:39

excellent, i cant wait

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Post by EB1515 » 21 Jun 2011, 08:24

Yes, and i think, PA learnt much with the A380 VC, so this one should be ready faster.
Sorry if my English is bad.

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Post by jupp44 » 21 Jun 2011, 08:27

quite unichrom, but still looking great ;) finally a proper vc for a321

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Post by ceo.ostairva » 21 Jun 2011, 09:42

Amazing done guys. Keep it up. Realy nice. It make me dreaming.

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Srilanka » 21 Jun 2011, 10:57

Alexis please make it FSX friendly! :)

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Ghostmaster » 21 Jun 2011, 11:26

Srilanka wrote:Alexis please make it FSX friendly! :)
+1

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Alexis » 21 Jun 2011, 14:20

Elmar wrote:Wow ... this is really amazing! :D You do a great job and your Addons make lots of fun to fly! Well, if you build a A321 virtual cockpit, so is there a possibility for the upcoming A320 2.1 and perhaps for a reworked A319 or even A318? ^^ And a more serious question is, will you make a complete A32x interior or can we choose like the A380 between a cabin model and a future vc model?

Best regards,
Elmar
IDK if I'll work on an A320 or 31x interior to that extent. What's sure though is that they share the cockpit, so I'd have no problem using it on the 320/19/18.
Regarding the full cabin, I've made a full interior model (all the way back to the tail) and exported it to FS. The problem is that FS9 doesn't handle 250k polygons that well :shock: , which led to framerates in the low to mid teens. The current plan is to reach 90-100k with the VC, first class and WV at once, so that would be up to a very playable framerate. FSX would handle it much better, though it has inherent FPS problems.

Regarding the release, it will be an all-in-one package, including the wingviews. :twisted:

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Post by fsxfs2002 » 21 Jun 2011, 16:20

Amazing you must be proud of this! Can't wait for this. I hope the textures is high quality so we get a realistic feeling! :) And please please make it available for FS2004???! I hate when things are only able for FSX :-) Btw awesome work looking forward to get this :D

Best regards thomas lp!!

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Elmar » 21 Jun 2011, 19:30

Thank you Alexis for anwsering my questions. I have expected that a full interior model will have a lot polygons, so can you imagine to get a additional single VC to the A321?

Best regards,
Elmar
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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by GE90115B1 » 21 Jun 2011, 19:31

Just one more Project Airbus thing to be excited about! Will this VC be compatible with the Pairbus A318/19/20?

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by sknepper » 21 Jun 2011, 21:44

It should be a similar VC for the A31x and A32x aircraft

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by robopirate » 22 Jun 2011, 05:56

I love you guys!

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Alexis » 22 Jun 2011, 07:03

Elmar wrote:Thank you Alexis for anwsering my questions. I have expected that a full interior model will have a lot polygons, so can you imagine to get a additional single VC to the A321?
It's not hard to reduce the current VC model to cockpit only. However I am a guy who likes to have stuff to explore, so I'll make all of the interior up to the 1st class seats.
Camiz757 wrote:Btw, will it have LCD screens?
For the time being, only the CRT model is modeled. I don't know whether I'll make the LCD version too.
sknepper wrote:It should be a similar VC for the A31x and A32x aircraft
It's identical, except for the 318 and its steep approach button. But I think the 318 only has an LCD cockpit, I need to check it out.

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Goozer » 22 Jun 2011, 17:49

Alexis wrote:It's not hard to reduce the current VC model to cockpit only. However I am a guy who likes to have stuff to explore, so I'll make all of the interior up to the 1st class seats.
I am not into this kind of stuff, so I can't say if it's something that can be done, but dont'you think that it might be more practical if there were two interior models, one for the cockpit and one for the cabin? Then everybody could choose to load or not to load one or the other, or both of the models, just to save some memory.

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Alexis » 22 Jun 2011, 18:05

That means three separate mdls. I think 90% of current systems can easily run a model that is 30% above the FS9 polygon limit. And I say 90% because of FS9's rendering limitations. Games like Unreal Tournament 3 and Crysis 2 can render millions of polygons at once.

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Kurosaki » 22 Jun 2011, 22:21

Totally epic. I'll be praying for the 2004 version. Looking great none the less!

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Alexis » 24 Jun 2011, 07:07

Here's an ingame preview. FPS is a solid 60 (locked there).
Still a lot of bugs to iron out though.

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by FLYPHOENIX » 24 Jun 2011, 07:20

image? sorry if its just my computer.

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Post by EB1515 » 24 Jun 2011, 08:10

Where is the image?

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by marf » 24 Jun 2011, 08:46

i don't see it either.

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Alexis » 24 Jun 2011, 09:22

Sorry, couldn't upload it from dropbox.
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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by iPetroSS » 25 Jun 2011, 07:56

OMG!!! Can't wait! :D

Will the wing and the engine be visible from the virtual cabin, just like the A380?

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Ghostmaster » 25 Jun 2011, 08:12

For Fsx,i hope wing and engine will not visible because its cause my fps to drop alot.

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Alexis » 25 Jun 2011, 10:02

They will be visible.

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Brett-Hill » 25 Jun 2011, 14:14

Very ver nice modeling, can't wait to see some textures for it. But from reading above im confused... will we be expecting a seperate model for fsx ?

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Alexis » 25 Jun 2011, 22:16

Brett-Hill wrote:Very ver nice modeling, can't wait to see some textures for it. But from reading above im confused... will we be expecting a seperate model for fsx ?
I haven't said so, but it is a possibility.

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Post by AirNewZealand_A320 » 25 Jun 2011, 22:41

I understand that its the CRT screens. what has more polys LCD or CRT.
I know that there would be minimal difference if any. Im just a guy taking interest in VC Modelling.

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Alexis » 26 Jun 2011, 09:07

AirNewZealand_A320 wrote:I understand that its the CRT screens. what has more polys LCD or CRT.
I know that there would be minimal difference if any. Im just a guy taking interest in VC Modelling.
CRT has more, because you have to do the rounded corners.

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Post by AirNewZealand_A320 » 26 Jun 2011, 09:15

Ah thought so. So for the LCD would you just Boolean a square into the fwd section, or model the square from the start?
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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Alexis » 26 Jun 2011, 10:28

AirNewZealand_A320 wrote:Ah thought so. So for the LCD would you just Boolean a square into the fwd section, or model the square from the start?
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No, I try to avoid boolean operations as much as possible.
-You start with a box, of which you delete 6 out of 8 vertices, leaving you with 2.
-Then you start copying the verts to the edges of the main panel and monitors.
-Afterwards you start creating the polygons by hand. Extrude the screen polys inwards to get the indentation and edit as needed.

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by BIGBROWNFLYER » 26 Jun 2011, 23:36

EWWWW old PFD YUCK!!! Get the new one on that VC quick!!

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Post by xparamorex316 » 27 Jun 2011, 04:21

BIGBROWNFLYER wrote:EWWWW old PFD YUCK!!! Get the new one on that VC quick!!
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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by easyjet12 » 03 Jul 2011, 12:06

OMFG That beats many payware A321 virtual cockpits!! Damn PA, u guys are awesome.

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Aileron » 03 Jul 2011, 22:50

Lookin very nice, Alexis!

Just curious, are there any (visual) differences between the A321 cockpit and the ones on the 319 and 320? If not, perhaps this VC could be included in the updated PA's A319 and 329 (318?) models (Vers. 2.1)?

Great work anyway... thumbs up!

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Post by Kyle Schurb » 04 Jul 2011, 08:36

Aileron wrote:Perhaps this VC could be included in the updated PA's A319 and 329 (318?) models (Vers. 2.1)?
Are you some kind of sorcerer-genius?? :o

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Alexis » 08 Jul 2011, 06:27

Aileron wrote:Lookin very nice, Alexis!

Just curious, are there any (visual) differences between the A321 cockpit and the ones on the 319 and 320? If not, perhaps this VC could be included in the updated PA's A319 and 329 (318?) models (Vers. 2.1)?

Great work anyway... thumbs up!
There's almost no difference between them, except for the 318 and the aircraft data displayed. Once it's done, it would be easy to implement. We'll see though.

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Re: A321 virtual cockpit preview

Post by Aileron » 08 Jul 2011, 20:58

Thank you Alexis, that's what I wanted to know. Keeping the fingers crossed.

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