The A330 and A340
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I just bought the Aerosoft Airbus X, and I must say, the level of realism and detail is astounding.
And I'm just wondering, how much like the Airbus X will the A330 be in terms of realism and operation? ... because the Airbus X, by far, is the most realistic Airbus on FSX
And I'm just wondering, how much like the Airbus X will the A330 be in terms of realism and operation? ... because the Airbus X, by far, is the most realistic Airbus on FSX
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That's stupid DLH, why didn't you wait for the extended version!
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I care more about Cockpit and Systems realism and VC detail.
You know Abacus or Halycon? !!THE WORST PAYWARE EVER MADE!! I'm regretting that I bought the Airbus Family vol3 before you release your A380.
Now to my queston -> Are you looking for Beta tester for FS2004?
You know Abacus or Halycon? !!THE WORST PAYWARE EVER MADE!! I'm regretting that I bought the Airbus Family vol3 before you release your A380.
Now to my queston -> Are you looking for Beta tester for FS2004?
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There's even worse out there!emshomar wrote:!!THE WORST PAYWARE EVER MADE!!
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And what Payware Aircraft did you think about? I really don't know worse than Abacus and Halycon!Daniel_csr wrote:There's even worse out there!
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More power to us, eh? :mrgreen:Daniel_csr wrote:There's even worse out there!emshomar wrote:!!THE WORST PAYWARE EVER MADE!!
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Freeware beats them all :lol:
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You can't beat the PMDG 737/747, Aerosoft A320 or Just Flights 767.
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Is that a challenge?Joel wrote:You can't beat the PMDG 737/747, Aerosoft A320 or Just Flights 767.
Also, price/performance for PA is better...divide by 0 :lol:
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i dont get people who compare a freeware with a payware, like srsly mate?
PA for a freeware group has done a tremendous and outstanding job with the models and FDE so don't go comparing it to a payware ffs.
PA for a freeware group has done a tremendous and outstanding job with the models and FDE so don't go comparing it to a payware ffs.
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Couldn't agree more...Constructive criticism is the best thing--we don't have nearly as many resources or time as payware developers.Nixpilot wrote:i dont get people who compare a freeware with a payware, like srsly mate?
PA for a freeware group has done a tremendous and outstanding job with the models and FDE so don't go comparing it to a payware ffs.
Now, let's get this back on track to the A330/A340!
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Hi,
what 2D Cockpit do you PA guys use personally? Is it one with the VASFMC? Or do you not fly with 2D cockpits at all in FS9?
This is also an interesting question concerning all of your other aircrafts. As for me, I use a merger with the old PSS cockpits (for your A32X and the POSKY A330/340 so far). As the PSS panels are easy to merge, I will use them with your upcoming A330/340.
Do you recommend any other third party panels, that have a certain degree of system-depth?
PS: all the payware Airbus-models that I've seen so far suck! PA's buses are the best stuff by far for FS9!
Cheers
what 2D Cockpit do you PA guys use personally? Is it one with the VASFMC? Or do you not fly with 2D cockpits at all in FS9?
This is also an interesting question concerning all of your other aircrafts. As for me, I use a merger with the old PSS cockpits (for your A32X and the POSKY A330/340 so far). As the PSS panels are easy to merge, I will use them with your upcoming A330/340.
Do you recommend any other third party panels, that have a certain degree of system-depth?
PS: all the payware Airbus-models that I've seen so far suck! PA's buses are the best stuff by far for FS9!
Cheers
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. +1 w/ EDDM, really wanna know that!
. I wouldn't buy PA aircrafts if there were payware. Merely because they don't feature any complex systems, neither panels...Even if FDE are perfect...But as a freeware of course! But it doesn't mean in any way the payware one is better than the freeware one, or the contrary...
. I wouldn't buy PA aircrafts if there were payware. Merely because they don't feature any complex systems, neither panels...Even if FDE are perfect...But as a freeware of course! But it doesn't mean in any way the payware one is better than the freeware one, or the contrary...
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Project Airbus makes awesome models. Far better than other payware groups. They also can make complex systems but then we have to pay. The complex systems are actually the thing we are paying for, because it takes a lot of time and studying for the group.Math/ilde wrote:I wouldn't buy PA aircrafts if there were payware. Merely because they don't feature any complex systems, neither panels...Even if FDE are perfect...But as a freeware of course! But it doesn't mean in any way the payware one is better than the freeware one, or the contrary...
I'm happy with Project Airbus models especially with the upcoming A330 and A340.
But I didn't understand why you wouldn't by PA's models if they are payware. Some people are buying the Abacus or some awful airplanes but you won't buy a high detail aircraft? ( but
please don't take it too seriously )
You know what I mean?
Rene
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I don't know how you've come to that conclusion.They also can make complex systems but then we have to pay.
The visuals take a lot of time and study as well.The complex systems are actually the thing we are paying for, because it takes a lot of time and studying for the group.
The reason we don't do systems is that we've got no one in the group that's devoted to it. It's not because one or the other takes more time, or that one or the other is more difficult; it's coincidence.
The reason people are not willing to pay for just the model is that without the systems, it's a bit like a lacquered turd[1,2].
[1] You can't polish a turd.
[2] Whereas if it's Abacus, it's pure shit.
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That's what draws the limit between freeware and payware (in general). Developers do have time to develop complex systems and models. That's what they do for a living. And that's why we pay for them! Freeware's developers do have a life, sometimes a family, and different obligations. As a consequence, it's difficult, barely impossible for them to develop those systems! But as I said, it doesn't mean they're not good at what they do. PA makes great models w/ amazing FDE. So is PMDG; except they add flight decks and systems. But it doesn't PMDG's better than PA, nor PA's better than PMDG.
Paywares don't always beat freewares.
Freeware don't always beat paywares. (pretty sure everything beats Abacus )
Everything is about obligation!
Paywares don't always beat freewares.
Freeware don't always beat paywares. (pretty sure everything beats Abacus )
Everything is about obligation!
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Time is a red herring. If someone wanted to create complex systems and give them away for free, they would've done it.
Also, you seem to think that the visuals are easier to make (and thus take less time). I'm not sure that's true.
Also, you seem to think that the visuals are easier to make (and thus take less time). I'm not sure that's true.
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Because I don't understand why we shouldn't pay for a fully realistic aircraft for FS9/FSX when others aren't able to make it half as good as you (PA) make it. It would be unfair to support a product with less with money and a high detailed one for nothing.esg wrote:I don't know how you've come to that conclusion.They also can make complex systems but then we have to pay.
yes, i know that and respect your work. but this sentence was for complex system opinion only.The complex systems are actually the thing we are paying for, because it takes a lot of time and studying for the group.
The visuals take a lot of time and study as well.
So for me it's amazing that a group makes a (for me is it) a high detailed aircraft. The A320 family, A380 and the upcoming A330/A340 in it's free time for nothing.
But it is good to have You. And I won't to get in trouble only about systems and other things.
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ReneM. wrote:Because I don't understand why we shouldn't pay for a fully realistic aircraft for FS9/FSX when others aren't able to make it half as good as you (PA) make it. It would be unfair to support a product with less with money and a high detailed one for nothing.esg wrote:I don't know how you've come to that conclusion.They also can make complex systems but then we have to pay.
yes, i know that and respect your work. but this sentence was for complex system opinion only.The complex systems are actually the thing we are paying for, because it takes a lot of time and studying for the group.
The visuals take a lot of time and study as well.
So for me it's amazing that a group makes a (for me is it) a high detailed aircraft. The A320 family, A380 and the upcoming A330/A340 in it's free time for nothing.
But it is good to have You. And I won't to get in trouble only about systems and other things.
So you're saying that Project Airbus should be payware? Yeah. Don't think so.
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I don't know. I take back everything. I didn't know what I wrote their. It's good to have Project Airbus as a freeware group.
I'm sorry for all this troubles and maybe bad sounding posts.
I'm sorry for all this troubles and maybe bad sounding posts.
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I think that some new VC screenshots could make everybody happy....
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Lol let's keep things cool yeah? What we do is our passion for airbus aircraft and till now, we have no intentions to go payware. I, for example, do not think that I'm fit for payware since I'm a noob at programming.
So chill and peace right? Screenies will be posted when due.
Regards
So chill and peace right? Screenies will be posted when due.
Regards
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I dont post here often, but strolling through casually every now and then, I just want to say, I'm very impressed. You all do fine work and release it for the rest of us to enjoy and I am thrilled for the up and coming projects. Thanks again for your diligence, attention to detail and sharing screenshots of progress. Take care!
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As Gary said, all in due time. There's much more than you know going under the hood.RémyG wrote:I think that some new VC screenshots could make everybody happy....
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that's a good news, can't wait to see you're work. thank's
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Just working on the Swiss tail.
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already flying i am!!!!!!!!!!(does this suggest model in very near to completion like debugging??????)
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*Iwantthisthingsobadiwouldkillakitten* Very nice work!
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OMG.. It looks amazing!! Good work PA team!!;)
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Please PA team, you can give a month for released ?
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Another dead kitten...bliblobla wrote:Please PA team, you can give a month for released ?
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loolAlexis wrote: Another dead kitten...
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Hint hint...we are not done yet...Alexis wrote:Another dead kitten...bliblobla wrote:Please PA team, you can give a month for released ?
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Excellent! I cannot wait to fly it on FSX.
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Lovely.
Where are the PW and GE models though?
Where are the PW and GE models though?
The poor thing had rabies anyways. It couldn't be helped.Alexis wrote:Another dead kitten...
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-Nice shot! I allready can hear the GE sound!
PS: Looks like the kitten kill count increases... :?
PS: Looks like the kitten kill count increases... :?
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I dunno; I was all too happy to purchase the 'lacquered turd' under the name 50North . As I recall, it was little more than a stunning visual model coupled with a very stable FDE. From my perspective, that's all I can ask for! (I might be part of a minority, but I'm one of 'those' simmers - you know, the ones that spend more time outside the aircraft than in lol). I can always find a decent (and easy) freeware panel and sounds to match, but for me, an accurate and detailed visual model as well as good flight dynamics are the two most important things I look for in a model. And I wouldn't mind paying for it. Granted, 50N's model came cheap, but it was at a cost.esg wrote:The reason people are not willing to pay for just the model is that without the systems, it's a bit like a lacquered turd[1,2].
Back on topic, great job so far on the A330/340s! I'm definitely looking forward to taking it for a few longhauls. Cheers!
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Why we don't see any screenshots from a real successful airline --> Emirates <--
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Just kidding
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Just kidding
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I'm the same, i would happily pay in this case for a A330/A340 and just couple it up with the Wilco panel.b6ifc81 wrote:I dunno; I was all too happy to purchase the 'lacquered turd' under the name 50North . As I recall, it was little more than a stunning visual model coupled with a very stable FDE. From my perspective, that's all I can ask for! (I might be part of a minority, but I'm one of 'those' simmers - you know, the ones that spend more time outside the aircraft than in lol). I can always find a decent (and easy) freeware panel and sounds to match, but for me, an accurate and detailed visual model as well as good flight dynamics are the two most important things I look for in a model. And I wouldn't mind paying for it. Granted, 50N's model came cheap, but it was at a cost.esg wrote:The reason people are not willing to pay for just the model is that without the systems, it's a bit like a lacquered turd[1,2].
Back on topic, great job so far on the A330/340s! I'm definitely looking forward to taking it for a few longhauls. Cheers!
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Yes, for PA models it's worth to pay. But another question: The wing lights aren't included right?inbetween wrote:I'm the same, i would happily pay in this case for a A330/A340 and just couple it up with the Wilco panel.
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sorry it has been long time since I've posted here but I like the A330 and can't wait for it to come out please take your time and good luck.
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Nice!
How about the paint kit?
How about the paint kit?