FSX FBW - UPDATED !
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I'm sorry for this. That's why i need feedback
regardss
regardss
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what happened,
during takeoff the spoilers were armed with out my knowing and the plane won't listen i pulled hard but it overshot, after spoilers were down it tookoff and then again suddenly, FD and AU throttle were activated even if i press hard F1 for zero throttle and the FD and AU throttle won't switch off
(i use the FD version) and as per me FBW- always on normal law or am i doing something wrong(should it show direct law :?: )?????? it was a simple procedure i followed for takeoff
1. start-up engines
2. taxi
3. flaps+1 and F4
so am i forgetting something????
@Goldleader
he is right its pretty buggy but good effort though...
during takeoff the spoilers were armed with out my knowing and the plane won't listen i pulled hard but it overshot, after spoilers were down it tookoff and then again suddenly, FD and AU throttle were activated even if i press hard F1 for zero throttle and the FD and AU throttle won't switch off
![blushing :oops:](./images/smilies/awesome-blush.png)
1. start-up engines
2. taxi
3. flaps+1 and F4
so am i forgetting something????
@Goldleader
he is right its pretty buggy but good effort though...
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Re: FSX FBW - UPDATED !
szpirogyra, every problem you mentioned come from FD Special Version (viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1942) and have nothing to do with Gary's FBW. Plus most are easily solvable.
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OK guys, so...
As I suggested to Rockster, how about you try it with the default panel?
Is it possible? Rockster found out that the default panel operated much better with my fbw than with francois.
I'll coordinate things with francois to make sure this won't happen if things will ever merge.
ALSO ! Please listen carefully.
Disable FSX's FBW because that might be the case. Go to the aircraft.cfg you are using and delete the following line: fly_by_wire = 1
Do so please, I'm pretty sure my fbw is quite ok tested it several times and landed quite smoothly as well.
Make sure everything is like what I said and then, please do Feed-back![wink ;)](./images/smilies/awesome-wink.png)
Regars
As I suggested to Rockster, how about you try it with the default panel?
Is it possible? Rockster found out that the default panel operated much better with my fbw than with francois.
I'll coordinate things with francois to make sure this won't happen if things will ever merge.
ALSO ! Please listen carefully.
Disable FSX's FBW because that might be the case. Go to the aircraft.cfg you are using and delete the following line: fly_by_wire = 1
Do so please, I'm pretty sure my fbw is quite ok tested it several times and landed quite smoothly as well.
Make sure everything is like what I said and then, please do Feed-back
![wink ;)](./images/smilies/awesome-wink.png)
Regars
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\GoldLeader wrote:szpirogyra, every problem you mentioned come from FD Special Version (viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1942) and have nothing to do with Gary's FBW. Plus most are easily solvable.
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szpir...
Have you read my post? :S
Have you read my post? :S
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GaryG wrote:
Disable FSX's FBW because that might be the case. Go to the aircraft.cfg you are using and delete the following line: fly_by_wire = 1
Regars
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I had someone who removed that and didn't happen what you're saying.
Are you sure you only removed that line AND nothing else?
Just making things clear![wink ;)](./images/smilies/awesome-wink.png)
Are you sure you only removed that line AND nothing else?
Just making things clear
![wink ;)](./images/smilies/awesome-wink.png)
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yes... the FBW works proper in the background but effect is not seen in FSX(i m talking about the logs in .bat)
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ok first of all i found that NOT removing the line but changing it to "fly_by_wire = 0" helped abit better. Yes your fly by wire computers overhead panel WILL NOT function anymore and remain off as a result. I also dont believe that only that line affects gary's FBW software i think some other lines in the [airplane_geometry] section could be forcing some limitations that are not agreeing with gary's software. Maybe one or all of the following:
elevator_area=76.500000
aileron_area=57.0
rudder_area=56.200000
elevator_up_limit=25.0
elevator_down_limit=15.0
aileron_up_limit=25.0
aileron_down_limit=15.0
rudder_limit=25.0
elevator_trim_limit=13.5
spoiler_limit=65.0 //35.0
Just a hunch.![big grin :D](./images/smilies/awesome-big-grin.png)
Just as a note: I have only tested until the previous release of the software, didnt get around to checking the new one yet.
Also it helped me alot by first loading an aircraft (Im using FSX so i load the Ultralight) then starting gary's software (for windows 7 users dont use "run as administrator" as long as you are not using it to run FSX) then loading the A320, only problem i faced was it kinda going off trim during the approach but then it was fine again. If your plane doesnt seem to respond just shutdown fsx and try again
elevator_area=76.500000
aileron_area=57.0
rudder_area=56.200000
elevator_up_limit=25.0
elevator_down_limit=15.0
aileron_up_limit=25.0
aileron_down_limit=15.0
rudder_limit=25.0
elevator_trim_limit=13.5
spoiler_limit=65.0 //35.0
Just a hunch.
![big grin :D](./images/smilies/awesome-big-grin.png)
Just as a note: I have only tested until the previous release of the software, didnt get around to checking the new one yet.
Also it helped me alot by first loading an aircraft (Im using FSX so i load the Ultralight) then starting gary's software (for windows 7 users dont use "run as administrator" as long as you are not using it to run FSX) then loading the A320, only problem i faced was it kinda going off trim during the approach but then it was fine again. If your plane doesnt seem to respond just shutdown fsx and try again
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Yeah, I actually thought that was causing the problems as well so I removed the line (which was, by the way set to 0). It still occurred.
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very odd, well i had the same problem but after a couple of exiting and restarting FSX i started behaving well. ok then try changing the following lines from the default A321 and tell me if that fixes it. Make sure you backup or rename the original aircraft.cfg incase this doesnt help.
elevator_area=76.500000
aileron_area=57.0
rudder_area=56.200000
elevator_up_limit=25.0
elevator_down_limit=15.0
aileron_up_limit=25.0
aileron_down_limit=15.0
rudder_limit=25.0
elevator_trim_limit=13.5
Tell me the results, atleast we can say we tried
elevator_area=76.500000
aileron_area=57.0
rudder_area=56.200000
elevator_up_limit=25.0
elevator_down_limit=15.0
aileron_up_limit=25.0
aileron_down_limit=15.0
rudder_limit=25.0
elevator_trim_limit=13.5
Tell me the results, atleast we can say we tried
Re: FSX FBW - UPDATED !
It is worth mentioning that this gauge is very much 'alpha'; you should _expect_ to experience issues.
Also, I think it would be a good idea if Gary briefly explained how the gauge works, so that the people who are testing it can—perhaps—better understand the issues they might experience, and how to better report these.
Also, I think it would be a good idea if Gary briefly explained how the gauge works, so that the people who are testing it can—perhaps—better understand the issues they might experience, and how to better report these.
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Also one thing you can try is making sure you start with a default airplane then starting FBW and waiting untill you see the log start then choose the A320. ![smile :)](./images/smilies/awesome-smile.png)
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Original Post has been updated with further instructions to ensure maximum stability of the program.
Special thanks to Rockster for pointing somethings out.
Reportedly, it works well with the A318 as well.
Regards
Special thanks to Rockster for pointing somethings out.
Reportedly, it works well with the A318 as well.
Regards
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If i get time before i leave on vaccation I ill report my findings for the A319, A320 And A321. Please note that I am flying the FD V3 editions of PAGaryG wrote:Original Post has been updated with further instructions to ensure maximum stability of the program.
Special thanks to Rockster for pointing somethings out.
Reportedly, it works well with the A318 as well.
Regards
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followed new instructions so here's the new progress (i use FD)
1-just selected the runway as starting position
2-engine start-up flaps at 2
3-F4 and so speed at 160 and + and one thing i noticed spoilers were armed automatically and at perhaps some level up
4- i took them down but the plane won't takeoff(i overshot the runway while trying to pull up) so F1 and spoilers automatically as speed brakes
5- again F4 and no spoilers the plane finally took off, took me a minute to take control(as for a beginner pretty much swinging)
i would say pretty much bug-free than before( i m really happy
) but still the spoiler is what bugs me, bugs u, pretty much bugs the project ![wink ;)](./images/smilies/awesome-wink.png)
but great i would say really function great for 2 min
(i total simulated for 3 min from beginning) keep up the good work..
1-just selected the runway as starting position
![big grin :D](./images/smilies/awesome-big-grin.png)
2-engine start-up flaps at 2
![smile :)](./images/smilies/awesome-smile.png)
3-F4 and so speed at 160 and + and one thing i noticed spoilers were armed automatically and at perhaps some level up
![uncertain :/](./images/smilies/awesome-uncertain.png)
4- i took them down but the plane won't takeoff(i overshot the runway while trying to pull up) so F1 and spoilers automatically as speed brakes
![surprised :o](./images/smilies/awesome-surprise.png)
5- again F4 and no spoilers the plane finally took off, took me a minute to take control(as for a beginner pretty much swinging)
![blushing :oops:](./images/smilies/awesome-blush.png)
i would say pretty much bug-free than before( i m really happy
![big grin :D](./images/smilies/awesome-big-grin.png)
![big grin :D](./images/smilies/awesome-big-grin.png)
![big grin :D](./images/smilies/awesome-big-grin.png)
![big grin :D](./images/smilies/awesome-big-grin.png)
![wink ;)](./images/smilies/awesome-wink.png)
but great i would say really function great for 2 min
![smile :)](./images/smilies/awesome-smile.png)
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I'm pretty sure that those are not my fault. I didn't even declare spoilers in my program !szpirogyra wrote: 3-F4 and so speed at 160 and + and one thing i noticed spoilers were armed automatically and at perhaps some level up![]()
4- i took them down but the plane won't takeoff(i overshot the runway while trying to pull up) so F1 and spoilers automatically as speed brakes![]()
Regards
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Someone's having the time of their life with the new smilies, lol.
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New smileys are amazing!
Anyway, I have once again tried the FBW (although I didn't follow those steps, default aircraft first, etc, etc) and it still worked pretty buggy...
Once I quitted the gauge the plane was pretty much like any other aircraft without FBW (without default FBW)
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Wierd, i usually get better results when i load with the ultralight and turning on FBW before loading the FD. My only problem is when i'm trying to land with full flaps and idle thrust the plane becomes unresponsive after 300 feet AGL and kinda keeps diving towards the runway. Only way i was able to recover is advancing the trusts till flex or toga and kick the plane out of the dive then i can control it again. This doesn't happen when i try to land the plane with flaps 3 Configuration.GoldLeader wrote:
New smileys are amazing!
Anyway, I have once again tried the FBW (although I didn't follow those steps, default aircraft first, etc, etc) and it still worked pretty buggy...
Once I quitted the gauge the plane was pretty much like any other aircraft without FBW (without default FBW)
So far all the FDs i checked behave this way A318, A319 And the A320
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I said I didn't load the default aircraft first
. I may try to do that later (I'm quite busy now).
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BTW: Do you all have FSX with SP2 ?
My fsx is the deluxe version.
My fsx is the deluxe version.
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accelerationGaryG wrote:BTW: Do you all have FSX with SP2 ?
My fsx is the deluxe version.
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Yep, I have acceleration as well.
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uh huh yes...GaryG wrote:BTW: Do you all have FSX with SP2 ?
My fsx is the deluxe version.
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can it be somehow something is conflicting???GaryG wrote:I'm pretty sure that those are not my fault. I didn't even declare spoilers in my program !szpirogyra wrote: 3-F4 and so speed at 160 and + and one thing i noticed spoilers were armed automatically and at perhaps some level up![]()
4- i took them down but the plane won't takeoff(i overshot the runway while trying to pull up) so F1 and spoilers automatically as speed brakes![]()
Regards
![uncertain :/](./images/smilies/awesome-uncertain.png)
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well the spoilers auto arm automatically, i think its francois who coded that into his plane. When i tested this software my spoilers did arm and my plane took off without problems. when my plane wasnt taking off my problem was the FBW line in the aircraft.cfg after that I didnt have any problems except the approach problems.szpirogyra wrote:can it be somehow something is conflicting???GaryG wrote:I'm pretty sure that those are not my fault. I didn't even declare spoilers in my program !szpirogyra wrote: 3-F4 and so speed at 160 and + and one thing i noticed spoilers were armed automatically and at perhaps some level up![]()
4- i took them down but the plane won't takeoff(i overshot the runway while trying to pull up) so F1 and spoilers automatically as speed brakes![]()
Regards
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I'm pretty busy at the moment, no time for it. Will announce when I have something.
Thanks for your interest.
Regards,
Gary
Thanks for your interest.
Regards,
Gary
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Re: FSX FBW - UPDATED !
Do You stopped working on this FBW?
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Hi Gary!
I'm still using your FBW-Module and I like it. Just one question: Would it be possible to decrease the speed when the alpha-protection starts? Maybe from 135 down to 120 knots? During the flare it sometimes happens that the protection sets full speed when you try to get the aircraft on the ground.
Thanks in advance and best regards!
Christoph
I'm still using your FBW-Module and I like it. Just one question: Would it be possible to decrease the speed when the alpha-protection starts? Maybe from 135 down to 120 knots? During the flare it sometimes happens that the protection sets full speed when you try to get the aircraft on the ground.
Thanks in advance and best regards!
Christoph
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Hi Chris, thanks a lot.
To all:
Please use this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19181682/FBWtest.exe
It has no alpha protection. I removed it because it was poorly implemented.
On the other hand, the only protections are the pitch and bank ones.
Hope you enjoy it.
Regards
To all:
Please use this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19181682/FBWtest.exe
It has no alpha protection. I removed it because it was poorly implemented.
On the other hand, the only protections are the pitch and bank ones.
Hope you enjoy it.
Regards
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Hi Gary!
Many thanks for your prompt reply! I'll try the new file this evening.
Best regards, Christoph
Many thanks for your prompt reply! I'll try the new file this evening.
Best regards, Christoph
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Thanks Chris, I'll await your feedback
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I can use your FBW with Francois a320?
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Can't guarantee compatibility
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Can someone make one for a380 plox