Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Poll ended at 05 Dec 2012, 12:30

FS9
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49%
FSX
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51%
XP10
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Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by esg » 05 Nov 2012, 12:30

It's time for one of these....

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by GaryG » 05 Nov 2012, 12:40

Yep...yep

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by szpirogyra » 05 Nov 2012, 13:06

what u gonna do with the results ?

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by GaryG » 05 Nov 2012, 14:13

Send them to the national statistics office ;)

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Joel » 05 Nov 2012, 15:00

2,300 Hours on FSX over 6 Years... YEAH BABY. (About 70% was done on the JustFlight 767 and 20% on PMDG 747-400.)

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by RémyG » 05 Nov 2012, 15:02

election time?

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Xudeva » 05 Nov 2012, 15:55

FS9 for fun,but I have FSX too because the repaints

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Boeing 787-8 » 05 Nov 2012, 18:14

Fs9, my pc isn´t very good...

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by eddm » 05 Nov 2012, 18:29

What a question for all the nice PA FS9 buses :laugh:

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by A321flyer » 05 Nov 2012, 19:02

At the current moment I use both. But when PMDG releases their 777 and I upgrade my video card and SSD, goodbye FS9 and hello FSX.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by SeDie » 05 Nov 2012, 19:05

FS9, i have the most Add-Ons ;-)

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Joel » 05 Nov 2012, 19:44

If they change their minds about FSX development because so many people still use FS9 I'm going to kill 92 cats.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by ReneM. » 05 Nov 2012, 20:06

That would be very awful if they would change their mind. Like one user said, the most one are playing FS9 because their PC isn't good enough. Until August I only played FS9, too.

But now with a new PC whic runs FSX perfectly smooth it's so much better. And especially with active thermals :D. That's a real challenge.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Nixpilot » 05 Nov 2012, 20:42

I will always use fs9 even the day i will get fsx.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by A320ER » 06 Nov 2012, 02:47

Always will be using FS9

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by airbuspilot » 06 Nov 2012, 12:51

FS9 is perfect for Online Flights ;)

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by TheRedBaron » 06 Nov 2012, 15:52

I never got FS9...so FSX is the way to go for me. I made the jump from FS2002 to FSX and I was just like ... :o THIS LOOKS SOOO PRETTY.

10 minutes later, I realized that it was running at like 5 fps :/ . It took like three years to get to 15 with an Athlon64 machine :laugh: And from there I got to like 30 with my current Fx8150 machine :)

EDIT: I like smilies :D

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Flightsimmer » 06 Nov 2012, 17:30

FS9 is good but I fly alot on fsx since i prefer more visuals.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by eddm » 06 Nov 2012, 17:56

TheRedBaron wrote:I never got FS9...so FSX is the way to go for me. I made the jump from FS2002 to FSX and I was just like ... :o THIS LOOKS SOOO PRETTY.

10 minutes later, I realized that it was running at like 5 fps :/ . It took like three years to get to 15 with an Athlon64 machine :laugh: And from there I got to like 30 with my current Fx8150 machine :)

EDIT: I like smilies :D
Hi,
could you specify your system Data (mainboard, cpu, RAM etc)? I just want to find out what a switch to a FSX-capable system would cost.
Currently I'm running FS9 with a dual Core Pentium (3.33 GHz), 4 Gig Ram, ATI Graphicscard with 1 Gig memory, OS: WInXP 32bit

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by TheRedBaron » 06 Nov 2012, 19:10

Yea, no problem! Just a note--this first appeared as an HP machine, and was modified extensively, so I will just put down the parts I have used in general (the mainboard is OEM...so it sucks).
CPU : AMD Fx-8150 3.6/3.9/4.2 GHz (stock) 4M/8T (AMD markets it as 8-core...I think it is more than a simple quad core...so I prefer 4 module)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80-I recommend this! It is WONDERFUL. Loud, but it literally keeps my CPU at like 10C in ambient 25C environments (idle), and no more than 45 under tremendous load.
MOBO : AMD 970 (AM3+)--OEM motherboard...sucks a lot. I would recommend a 990X or 990FX, since those are literally like 20 USD more than 970.
RAM : 16 GB DDR3-1333 (9-9-9) Mushkin Enhanced Blackline (Downclocked by my stupid mainboard from their stock 1600 8-8-8 timings :/ )
GPU : Nvidia Quadro 6000 6GB GDDR5 (I have this for research I do *Like I could afford it myself...that is a good joke*--It is very feature-filled, and does provide some boost. HOWEVER, I recommend a GTX660Ti/GTX670 if you can afford it. If
not, a 7870 ought to do the trick)
HDD : Seagate 7200 RPM OEM 1.5TB drive (3Gb/s)--I think it is failing :/
OS : Win7 Ultimate 64 Bit


I will tell you this...if you have money to burn, go get an Intel i7. The AMD 8150 is great, but in terms of single-threaded performance (FSX..grrr), it is really not brilliant. If you decide to OC, then 8150 is great. The Fx-8350 is the new flagship...IDK how it works with FSX though. Cheaper, cost-efficient build = AMD processor--> more expensive build = Intel processor. That choice is up to you. You need to figure out what you do with your computer and how much benefit there is. As for OS..go 64 bit.

In FSX, I use pretty high settings overall...50% all traffic except for GA(0%), full scenery, autogen, special effects, high terrain stuff, detail textures. I will get between 15 and 30 fps on the ground at an airport like KLGA (10-20 at KJFK). In the air, as long as I don't look directly at the horizon in VC...I can get between 45 and 70 fps (35 avg realistically). Note that this is after tweaks..without tweaks your performance will suffer.

Estimated system value (with a GTX660ti instead of my Quadro): probably around 950-1000 USD. Assume 160(CPU)+120(Mobo)+280(GPU)+70(RAM)+70(cooler)+100(nice case)+70(good PSU)+70(1TB HDD)+20(Disk reader).

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by RémyG » 06 Nov 2012, 20:15

hi all,

since we're talking about config, I got a question for a long time, maybe someone can answer it:
Here is my PC spec: I7 870 @2.93 Ghz / 8Gb DDR3 / Nv GTX560 Gb / 2X 500Gb on Hard drive (fsx/fs9 on one HD)
My FPS in FS9 are more the 100, but no more than 15 on FSX (with no third part addon installed, fsx virgin)
How is it possible? I tried everything (instal, reinstal, change HD, all possible settings on FSX, FSX.CFG, DX10 with or without) nothing has changed, never more than 20...
does anyone got an idea of what could cause this low FPS?

that would be very appreciate.
Thx the community

Rémy

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by TheRedBaron » 07 Nov 2012, 02:37

RémyG wrote: does anyone got an idea of what could cause this low FPS?
I assume you have tried tweaking. With uninstall/reinstall, did you eradicate EVERY last FSX remnant (registry, folders, appdata)? The installer is buggy.
More info required--What OS are you using? Windows 7 64 bit is perfect for FSX (IDK about Windows 8). What settings do you run it on? Max settings are unrealistic with the hardware you have. The 870 is a great CPU, I'm sure...but it is quite dated now. The rates you are getting are like what I used to get my old Athlon machine.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by RémyG » 07 Nov 2012, 11:31

Thanks for your answer,
Yes i've done the regcleaner, appdata (even reinstal win 7 64), no changes, it can't go higher than 15/20 fps, I was wondering if there was not a secret settings, or something.
I also wanted to ask, what do you think about FSPS - FSX BOOSTER V4, I've heard some bad and good things about it, and you think that Overclocking the cpu could works?
It is a hardware problems (Which i don't think so) or a software problems?

Thx

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Alexis » 07 Nov 2012, 11:54

I have made a lot of edits in my FSX.cfg in order to make it play well. If you'd like, I can PM it to you (at least I hope I've kept it, after my last format). Just send me your system specs to be sure.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Spinikker » 07 Nov 2012, 14:46

TheRedBaron wrote: HDD : Seagate 7200 RPM OEM 1.5TB drive (3Gb/s)--I think it is failing :/
Seagate = its definitely failing :roll: (these are actually the best smilies I have seen officially used in a forum)

FS9 can achieve FSX level graphics to a point with better performance in my opinion. Unfortunately FSX is an outdated platform and FS9 is obviously than even more so. That, I imagine, is a huge limitation to what can actually be designed as new graphic formats come out, I am guessing that is why so many developers are switching FSX only. It is somewhat irritating though since I put in a lot of time and money to an FS9 system and it is reaching the peak of it's possibilities. Oh well, cost of progress.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by RémyG » 07 Nov 2012, 20:26

Alexis wrote:I have made a lot of edits in my FSX.cfg in order to make it play well. If you'd like, I can PM it to you (at least I hope I've kept it, after my last format). Just send me your system specs to be sure.
Hi would be very happy if you could send it to me, anything that could help me to get FSX working is welcome. (that doesn't mean that I would not be happy with your A*** running on **9)
Thank you

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Alexis » 07 Nov 2012, 22:17

FSX.cfg: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21574664/fsx.CFG
On Intel Core i7 920 Overclocked @3,8GHz, 6GB RAM @1204MHz, HD6870, I was getting 25-45fps above large urban areas, 60fps (locked) in lighter areas, using CaptainSim's B-52. I hope it will improve your performance.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by eddm » 07 Nov 2012, 22:37

Who of you guys is using a 64bit OS with FS9? I'm thinking about switching to WinXP 64 bit to get some more RAM available, but I'm not sure how much memory I can adress to FS9. I'also don't know if there occur problems with certain payware addons.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by TheRedBaron » 07 Nov 2012, 23:42

Alexis wrote:FSX.cfg: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21574664/fsx.CFG
On Intel Core i7 920 Overclocked @3,8GHz, 6GB RAM @1204MHz, HD6870, I was getting 25-45fps above large urban areas, 60fps (locked) in lighter areas, using CaptainSim's B-52. I hope it will improve your performance.
I just took a look at it...you know, just something odd: for some reason, I get higher FPS when I set the max trees and buildings for autogen to 6000. LOL IDK why, but it is waaaay better than with like 4000 :D FSX is so silly sometimes :P

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Alexis » 08 Nov 2012, 13:14

TheRedBaron wrote:I just took a look at it...you know, just something odd: for some reason, I get higher FPS when I set the max trees and buildings for autogen to 6000. LOL IDK why, but it is waaaay better than with like 4000 :D FSX is so silly sometimes :P
No way... I'll give it a try!

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by inbetween » 08 Nov 2012, 17:47

This poll makes me wonder why developers say that they will develop for FSX because the market isn't there for FS9... Extrapolate from that poll and i definitely don't see FSX being the majority sim. Personally i don't use FSX not because my system can't run it but the experience i have when using it is nowhere near as good. I'm not interested in the FPS eating little details that gets included which still gives me the same if not worst experience than FS9, the amount of tweaking and adjustments to hardware needed to get FSX even stable is just ridiculous. Then again, to me anything less than 20fps is unacceptable and using FSX will always mean a compromise... Plus.... I'm not a VC flyer. ;)

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by lingyuan.he » 08 Nov 2012, 18:45

FSX/9? It is a 50-50 question to me, those who want(and able to achieve) graphics, anything shiny or new go to X, while others stay in 9. And, a lot people have both X and 9.
Now FS has ended, those with 9 obviously tend to stay, cause even FSX is an old platform and buggy.
XP10? Might be the future, well, too costly for me.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by shaosibin » 09 Nov 2012, 01:41

There is a large amount of addon Russian airports, they are freeware and their ratings are worth 5! but no FSX version existing.
I have transfered to FSX since after NGX, and now I feel FSX is truely better than FS9.
but I think X-plane is a dark horse...

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by A321flyer » 09 Nov 2012, 02:46

Airbus X Extended edition is coming out soon...

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Nixpilot » 09 Nov 2012, 03:04

I think prepare3D is the best in terms of graphics and realism, but holy smokes it IS expensive...

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by A321flyer » 09 Nov 2012, 03:34

I dont really understand what prepar3d really is. Is it supposed to be used with FSX or is it a completely standalone simulator? Also does it represent the whole world or just a specific region for a high level scenery? I looked at prepar3d not too long ago but I was confused.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Nixpilot » 09 Nov 2012, 03:42

prepare3D is used for real pilot training, as compared to fs9 and fsx who is just a game.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by A321flyer » 09 Nov 2012, 03:59

So it is full standalone simulator?

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by GaryG » 09 Nov 2012, 08:51

Yes

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by esg » 09 Nov 2012, 09:34

inbetween wrote:This poll makes me wonder why developers say that they will develop for FSX because the market isn't there for FS9... Extrapolate from that poll and i definitely don't see FSX being the majority sim. Personally i don't use FSX not because my system can't run it but the experience i have when using it is nowhere near as good. I'm not interested in the FPS eating little details that gets included which still gives me the same if not worst experience than FS9, the amount of tweaking and adjustments to hardware needed to get FSX even stable is just ridiculous. Then again, to me anything less than 20fps is unacceptable and using FSX will always mean a compromise... Plus.... I'm not a VC flyer. ;)
Bear in mind that this poll is only indicative of---a subset of---our user base. We've not really properly delved into FSX yet and we've not made nearly as many things for FSX as we have for FS9, so this might explain why the poll is slightly lopsided in favour of FS9.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by emshomar » 11 Nov 2012, 20:01

I have them both installed, but I do more use FS9! I have a XMG A522 with Intel Core i7-3840QM 2,80-3,80GHz and a GTX 660M with 2GB GDDR5.

I tested them with FlyTampa Dubai Rebooted and Standart Cessna 172.
FS9: Locked at 60FPS
FSX: 15-20FPS

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by A321flyer » 09 Dec 2012, 23:58

That's weird. I dont lock my FPS and I have 80% World of AI traffic in Fly Tampa Dubai Rebooted in FSX and I get around 20-40 FPS with the Cessna 172. And my system is weaker than yours:

AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.6Ghz
GTX 560
4GB DDR3 1333Mhz RAM
Sandisk 128GB SSD
Windows 7 x86 Ultimate SP1


BTW the forum has gotten really quiet. How is work going on with the A330? Its been a long time since we had an update.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by emshomar » 20 Dec 2012, 07:17

That's because I have a leptop! Leptops are known to produce less performance than desktops.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Kyle Schurb » 20 Dec 2012, 17:04

PIlotwings 64 is my simulator of choice.
emshomar wrote:That's because I have a leptop! Leptops are known to produce less performance than desktops.
:laugh: :@ :@ :@ :laugh:

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Propilot23k » 24 Dec 2012, 00:34

i thought it was X-wing vs Tie Fighter?

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Airbus Fan » 24 Dec 2012, 11:33

FSX the best.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by A321flyer » 25 Dec 2012, 01:29

Airbus Fan wrote:FSX the best.
Same here. Once you go X, you never go back ;)

BTW, please, anyone at Project Airbus, can we please get some news on the A330? A small update perhaps? Every time I visit these forums its kind of lonesome.

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Atomic_13 » 05 Jan 2013, 08:46

Switched to FS9 since it is way less laggy than FSX :/

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by airbusler » 06 Jan 2013, 11:14

I only use FS 9 too, because it runs stable

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Re: Poll: Which flight simulator do you use the most?

Post by Ales.KL » 17 Jan 2013, 23:10

FS2004 - Stable, no problem, ;)

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