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AirbusCaptain wrote:Hello I was just wondering. Will the cfg reflect the reduced fuel burn the sharklets bring? Or will it be the same as it is now for the PA320 V2.1?

I did a thesis on winglet performance and the total savings are actually quite negligible in real life but nethertheless there are clear savings and the airlines are using them just to reduce their block fuel requirement. As a direct consequence on a particular flight, winglets don't really reduce fuel burn, they reduce the fuel required.

Another example of such a saving you can do on any flight is landing with flaps at config 3 which reduces aerodynamic drag compared with config full. This allows the aircraft to maintain an approach speed using less thrust. This does however increase stall/approach speed but it isn't a problem when used in the correct scenario. I think I read this method saves around 15-20kg of fuel per flight compared to a regular config full landing which over the space of a year employed as a SOP in a large fleet will amount to a lot of money!

The net savings you may have read about you will not be able to see in FSX reliably and accurately not just without the FDE but also without a highly accurate simulation of the Airbus FADEC, systems etc. Had it been modeled and you flew an A320 in FSX without winglet and then an A320 with winglet fully fueled you will probably see an extra endurance of around 100nm but that can and would vary greatly in every scenario. I think PA have it right in not modeling this because it is extremely difficult to get right and even then even more so to simulate accurately.

Any chance someone on the pa side could post a wingview shot from forward of the engine?? I hope this gets released soon, the anticpation for this update is seriously killin me!!!

Just curious, are the flaps going to be all gray instead of the silver stripe? Thanks!

Older flap with metal strip
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 19&nseq=29
New Sharklet Flaps:
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7751942&nseq=3

CngDelta757 wrote:Just curious, are the flaps going to be all gray instead of the silver stripe? Thanks!

Older flap with metal strip
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 19&nseq=29
New Sharklet Flaps:
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7751942&nseq=3

I can't speak for Stian, but I don't plan on changing the wing/flap textures.

Tavers wrote:

CngDelta757 wrote:Just curious, are the flaps going to be all gray instead of the silver stripe? Thanks!

Older flap with metal strip
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 19&nseq=29
New Sharklet Flaps:
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7751942&nseq=3

I can't speak for Stian, but I don't plan on changing the wing/flap textures.

I do a small edit on mine yes

See on A321 wing shot i took!

Cheers
Stian

LN-OSS wrote: I do a small edit on mine yes

See on A321 wing shot i took!

Cheers
Stian

Thanks! Must've oversaw that, looks perfect! Great work.

Hey ln-oss, is it possible for u to update the engine cowling texture to add some of the rivits? I've tried to, but when I do that its hard to match the inner texture of the engine. You clearly see a line of the different colors.

Another bird coming... Fly Frontier, shark with sharklets

Beautiful work stian!

A330fan wrote:Please make a jetBlue livery for the 320 and 321

Look for these soon.

Steve wrote:

A330fan wrote:Please make a jetBlue livery for the 320 and 321

Look for these soon.

Awesome! Can't wait!

I am not a Airbus man (BOEING ALL THE WAY!), but I have to say that Project Airbus has done a bang up job, and adding the Sharklets to the A320 series is even better. They look outstanding and I can't wait to take one for a spin. Good work guys.

By the way, I am also waiting on the A330/A340 series also. (Okay they grew on me since Delta merge with Northwest.)

No any Finnair A32B? I have to remind it was Finnair who got the first A321 Sharklet By the way looking forwarg to it!
P.S. Looks stunning!

CngDelta757 wrote:Just curious, are the flaps going to be all gray instead of the silver stripe? Thanks!

Older flap with metal strip
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 19&nseq=29
New Sharklet Flaps:
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7751942&nseq=3

There is a mod on Avsim, but it has Vueling´s register and winglets.

http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?Ca ... LID=161508

Boeing 787-8 wrote:

CngDelta757 wrote:Just curious, are the flaps going to be all gray instead of the silver stripe? Thanks!

Older flap with metal strip
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 19&nseq=29
New Sharklet Flaps:
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7751942&nseq=3

There is a mod on Avsim, but it has Vueling´s register and winglets.

http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?Ca ... LID=161508

He means the flaps, not the wing surfaces.

Tavers wrote:

Boeing 787-8 wrote:

CngDelta757 wrote:Just curious, are the flaps going to be all gray instead of the silver stripe? Thanks!

Older flap with metal strip
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 19&nseq=29
New Sharklet Flaps:
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7751942&nseq=3

There is a mod on Avsim, but it has Vueling´s register and winglets.

http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?Ca ... LID=161508

He means the flaps, not the wing surfaces.

yeah, I'm notice the different between sharklet & non-sharklet.....the sharklet doesn't have the silver stripe....it's only the texture...not a big problem....

Hi

I'm just wondering at what stage are the sharklet models at? Are they finished or are the final touches still been added?

I must say all the liveries so far look excellent!

luke wrote:Hi

I'm just wondering at what stage are the sharklet models at? Are they finished or are the final touches still been added?

I must say all the liveries so far look excellent!

Still beeing working on...

Cheers

Quick question. Will all the sharklet models have the "windmilling" effect on the engines when parked? Also the Sharklet models look great. I cant wait to fly them home from Blagnac France.

nickac1092 wrote:Quick question. Will all the sharklet models have the "windmilling" effect on the engines when parked? Also the Sharklet models look great. I cant wait to fly them home from Blagnac France.

Nope.

ok.

Tavers wrote:

nickac1092 wrote:Quick question. Will all the sharklet models have the "windmilling" effect on the engines when parked? Also the Sharklet models look great. I cant wait to fly them home from Blagnac France.

Nope.

Why will they not have the windmilling effect? The current 321 version has it..

Ok fellas... Sharklet repaint nr 10 from me

Finnair

LN-OSS wrote: Ok fellas... Sharklet repaint nr 10 from me

That is just perfect!

I love sharklets. And i hope your next project is A320NEO Jets with improved engines. Forever Airbus fan.
http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/news-e ... rn_id=3403

Nice work!

Amazing! I think it looks better than Aerosoft model.

This is awesome! Looking forward to fly the new A32X myself.

I think it looks better than Aerosoft model.

+1

I think the PA A32X is by far the best Airbus Model for FS9 and FSX

Could someone post wing view picture? I would like too see what it looks like.

Next one... Jersey Girl, Virgin America!

jäätee wrote:Could someone post wing view picture? I would like too see what it looks like.

Some days ago i posted from the A321.. On page one in this thread!

Cheers
Stian

And... Chevrons

LN-OSS wrote:

jäätee wrote:Could someone post wing view picture? I would like too see what it looks like.

Some days ago i posted from the A321.. On page one in this thread!

Cheers
Stian

can you post the screenshot of A320 wing view?? because I wanna see the different A321 & A320 flaps...

Flaps of A320 : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... y_2009.JPG

Flaps of A321 : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... CF0645.JPG

Stunning repaints from all of you. The chevrons really fit the CFM engines, well modeled!

Just one small request to the model(s). (I promise this will be the last one). It's a very small item but a thing I noticed on the newer built A319s and A320s.

They don't longer have the static discharger antenna on the Engine Flap Track. (The Flap Track which is connected with the Engine pylon under the each wing).

Two images to show you or to make sure of.
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking ... u-A320.jpg
http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-conte ... loseup.png

And the older one with discharger.
http://www.freewebs.com/qldplanespottin ... G_8111.JPG

I wish you can consider to "delete" the discharger. But you don't have to if you think it's unnecessary. It's just because PA are awesome when it comes to visuals and details.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to these new birds in my hangar. PS: Don't rush with the release.

Great work, everyday still waiting
One question?
Have Project Airbus team made like this picture?
whether it modeled or added texture for this?
small piece but added more realistic
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac18 ... C08791.jpg

Guys, I can appreciate the additional requests, but new features aren't up for addition. It's supposed to be a small update to add the Sharklets and animate the aileron.. The Chevron as a bonus, but there aren't plans to modify anything else.

So to confirm, the engines will not windmill while on the ground with engines off?

Tavers wrote:Guys, I can appreciate the additional requests, but new features aren't up for addition. It's supposed to be a small update to add the Sharklets and animate the aileron.. The Chevron as a bonus, but there aren't plans to modify anything else.

Ok, waiting everyday

Honestly cant wait for this to be released with all the amazing repaints that are gonna be coming up soon!! great job guys!!

Regular LH..

Very Nice
Sorry for my question.
When and were I can download this very good Airplane?

DennisR wrote:Very Nice
Sorry for my question.
When and were I can download this very good Airplane?

Not yet released and please do not request any paints

is the released date already known?

No release dates were ever set by PA

ok thanks

Here is a shot of the wing of the A320!

All stuff in action! Virgin America in Punta Cana