Moving on, part 5

CngDelta757 · Post by **CngDelta757** » 06 Apr 2010, 00:55

Must Be damn close to the release of this plane!

Post by **GaryG** » 06 Apr 2010, 05:21

Oh tell me why..... do we build castles in the sky, oh tell me why....

I think that Tranceaddict knows this

(PVD)

PhoenixAF24 · Post by **PhoenixAF24** » 07 Apr 2010, 02:05

That song brings back memories!!

wow2010 · Post by **wow2010** » 07 Apr 2010, 03:08

wish u the best PA on Saturday hope to fly it soon like Saturday :lol:

Tranceaddict · Post by **Tranceaddict** » 07 Apr 2010, 09:04

I'd caution on getting too excited or speculation

If the tests on saturday go to plan, it will only mean we can arrive at some preliminary launch schedule that will allow me to plan a few tentative dates. It does not mean it WILL be launched on saturday.. or sunday.

deccas1391 · Post by **deccas1391** » 07 Apr 2010, 09:18

How exactly do you test the aircraft? Is it just testing the flight dynamics or something?

Tranceaddict · Post by **Tranceaddict** » 07 Apr 2010, 09:24

Though there are many ways we put the FDE through tests, in brief - testing for us is a combination of these.

1) random flights - takeoffs & climbs / cruise as the need may be - different manuevers etc
2) Simulated proper flights - comparison the real world flights (in terms of adherence to the published times +/- acceptable margins)
3) Circuits - different weight levels / winds etc
4) comparison of fuel burn on long/short/medium range flights @ different flight levels both with winds & without winds

So far from the flights i have flown, the fuel burn & therefore performance does appear ok (as best we can estimate from the different data we have) but obviously we have accepted the fact that we cannot get very accurate on the actual figures (it would require a hell of a lot of specific data - in most cases airline specific data which we cannot get and dont have either)

There's more but i cant really be bothered to list out the specifics of each test scenario

Vee One · Post by **Vee One** » 07 Apr 2010, 11:26

Just a note to say thanks to you and the others in the group for such a wonderful project you're doing! I, like many are looking forward to flying that whale soon!

Happy Landings!

Vee One

deccas1391 · Post by **deccas1391** » 07 Apr 2010, 12:24

Tranceaddict wrote:Though there are many ways we put the FDE through tests, in brief - testing for us is a combination of these.

1) random flights - takeoffs & climbs / cruise as the need may be - different manuevers etc
2) Simulated proper flights - comparison the real world flights (in terms of adherence to the published times +/- acceptable margins)
3) Circuits - different weight levels / winds etc
4) comparison of fuel burn on long/short/medium range flights @ different flight levels both with winds & without winds

So far from the flights i have flown, the fuel burn & therefore performance does appear ok (as best we can estimate from the different data we have) but obviously we have accepted the fact that we cannot get very accurate on the actual figures (it would require a hell of a lot of specific data - in most cases airline specific data which we cannot get and dont have either)

There's more but i cant really be bothered to list out the specifics of each test scenario

Wow. Thanks for the info

I should have mentioned this earlier, but you want specific information on the A380, or are interested in flying it in general, take a look at this book (http://www.google.com/books?id=GnpOPgAA ... +a380&cd=4). Very detailed flight from Heathrow to Dubai. Good luck with the tests

wow2010 · Post by **wow2010** » 07 Apr 2010, 13:08

how smooth are the landing flaps going up and down

Tranceaddict · Post by **Tranceaddict** » 07 Apr 2010, 13:12

and just how do you expect us to answer that question? seriously.

smooth = as smooth as they can be/should be in FS. Does that make sense?

Post by **GaryG** » 07 Apr 2010, 13:20

is it a question?

wow2010 · Post by **wow2010** » 07 Apr 2010, 13:43

i wasnt trying to be a but when i asked just curris

Tranceaddict · Post by **Tranceaddict** » 07 Apr 2010, 13:46

can i just tell everyone once & for all to have some patience? all your questions will be answered & you'll can experience it for yourself when it's released soon.

i'm sure that beats any answer we can give you to explain stuff right now

wow2010 · Post by **wow2010** » 07 Apr 2010, 14:01

thanks for yalls hard hard work to get this done

wow2010 · Post by **wow2010** » 08 Apr 2010, 21:50

hello to all shhh its verry quit

ricko · Post by **ricko** » 09 Apr 2010, 05:26

Be Vewy Vewy Qwuiet, Were hunt'n A thwree 80's
hehehe.

Cheers, Rick

Vee One · Post by **Vee One** » 09 Apr 2010, 10:54

I don't get why they said "radio silence"... What does that mean? Is it something like the Apollo 13 mission had -radio silence- just before landing into the ocean? :lol:

Post by **GaryG** » 09 Apr 2010, 10:58

Thanks for that interesting fact Vee One....

ricko · Post by **ricko** » 09 Apr 2010, 11:19

Some final checks before she flies ?

P = The problem logged by the pilot.
S = The solution logged by the mechanic.

P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement.
S: Almost replaced left inside main tire.

P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough.
S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.

P: Something loose in cockpit.
S: Something tightened in cockpit.

P: Autopilot in "altitude-hold" mode produces a 200-fpm descent.
S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.

P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear.
S: Evidence removed.

P: DME volume unbelievably loud.
S: DME volume set to more believable level.

P: Transponder inoperative.
S: Transponder always inoperative in OFF mode.

P: The T/C ball seemed stuck in the middle during my last turn.
S: Congratulations! You've just made your first coordinated turn.

P: Suspected crack in windscreen.
S: Suspect you're right.

P: Number 3 engine missing.
S: Engine found on right wing after brief search.

P: Aircraft handles funny.
S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right, and be serious.

P: Radio switches stick
S: Peanut butter no longer served to flight crew

P: Brakes howl on application
S: Don't step on 'em so hard!

P: Radio sounds like a squealing pig
S: Removed pig from radio. BBQ behind hangar tomorrow

deccas1391 · Post by **deccas1391** » 09 Apr 2010, 12:06

Don't forget:

P: Dead bugs on windscreen
S: Live bugs on order

wow2010 · Post by **wow2010** » 09 Apr 2010, 12:22

fly baby fly come to dady :mrgreen:

Vee One · Post by **Vee One** » 09 Apr 2010, 16:56

:lol: :lol: :lol: Nice after-flight list :mrgreen:

DomSQ · Post by **DomSQ** » 10 Apr 2010, 05:21

Very nice feeling knowing it's coming soon...but I did a quick search and could'nt find the exact answer so I'll just pop it in here.

When it does get released, will it be released with Tom Collins SQ & EK paints?, or just standard white?

Matt Tank · Post by **Matt Tank** » 10 Apr 2010, 05:46

DomSQ wrote:Very nice feeling knowing it's coming soon...but I did a quick search and could'nt find the exact answer so I'll just pop it in here.

When it does get released, will it be released with Tom Collins SQ & EK paints?, or just standard white?

Bad move on your part, never ask a freeware group to divulge info about release dates, Dom you should know that.

Regards

<Matt

DomSQ · Post by **DomSQ** » 10 Apr 2010, 05:55

Matt, I'd like you to genuinely point out...where in my post do I mention a "release date"?, I simply asked if it was a probability that the Singapore & Emirates paints would be released along side the model...absolutely nothing about a date when it will be released...

Post by **DerKranich** » 10 Apr 2010, 06:28

DomSQ wrote:Matt, I'd like you to genuinely point out...where in my post do I mention a "release date"?, I simply asked if it was a probability that the Singapore & Emirates paints would be released along side the model...absolutely nothing about a date when it will be released...

Since they were the only two liveries shown to date, I'd say it's a bit of a rhetorical question.

DomSQ · Post by **DomSQ** » 10 Apr 2010, 06:39

Rhetorical?, the way I see it...not in the slightest, the fact that 2 liveries were shown doesn't necessarily mean they'll be included for the initial release of the model, they could come 2 days after or 2 months after, which is the question I was asking...it's a simple "yes","no"...or "probably"...I was just curious what PA's plans are on the livery side of things.

sknepper · Post by **sknepper** » 10 Apr 2010, 07:13

Is this from the A380?

And don't learn to fly here

Matt Tank · Post by **Matt Tank** » 10 Apr 2010, 08:53

DomSQ wrote:Matt, I'd like you to genuinely point out...where in my post do I mention a "release date"?, I simply asked if it was a probability that the Singapore & Emirates paints would be released along side the model...absolutely nothing about a date when it will be released...

lol well im genuinely sorry I read your post wrong, I was speed reading

Regards

Matt

Tranceaddict · Post by **Tranceaddict** » 10 Apr 2010, 12:13

Easy boys.

Give us some time & I promise you all the details of the launch. Yes there will be liveries @ launch. Exact details will come in time.

Paintkit will follow last.

Matt Tank · Post by **Matt Tank** » 10 Apr 2010, 12:44

Tranceaddict wrote:Paintkit will follow last.

Thats what im waiting for, dont get me wrong i cant wait for the release of the models but im really wanting to slap some paints on that baby

Regards

Matt

Tranceaddict · Post by **Tranceaddict** » 10 Apr 2010, 12:53

Everybody's looking to something more than the rest.

We will have a schedule as per what we need to do & what's on our priority list. As of now, the paintkit is not right up there.

So yeah thats all for now.

wow2010 · Post by **wow2010** » 10 Apr 2010, 14:46

how was the flight test is there a video

Tranceaddict · Post by **Tranceaddict** » 10 Apr 2010, 14:47

we're still testing

Post by **DerKranich** » 10 Apr 2010, 15:09

DomSQ wrote:Rhetorical?, the way I see it...not in the slightest, the fact that 2 liveries were shown doesn't necessarily mean they'll be included for the initial release of the model, they could come 2 days after or 2 months after, which is the question I was asking...it's a simple "yes","no"...or "probably"...I was just curious what PA's plans are on the livery side of things.

...and release it without a single livery for us to enjoy? No sane freeware group would do that!

FlyTheA380 · Post by **FlyTheA380** » 10 Apr 2010, 22:00

CANT FKING WAIT ANYMORE !!!!!!!!!!!

wow2010 · Post by **wow2010** » 11 Apr 2010, 00:44

hold your taders

PhoenixAF24 · Post by **PhoenixAF24** » 11 Apr 2010, 02:16

FlyTheA380 wrote:CANT FKING WAIT ANYMORE !!!!!!!!!!!

Calm down... we're all as anxious as you apparently are...

Post by **DerKranich** » 11 Apr 2010, 05:12

Us fanatics are much like gremlins; we should never be feed past midnight for we get a little too jittery.

marf · Post by **marf** » 11 Apr 2010, 08:30

whats your flavour? Wingviews? Virtual Cabin? or Virtual Cockpit?

VC!!!

Movieman162 · Post by **Movieman162** » 11 Apr 2010, 08:58

I wounder (hope) if the test flight was a success... meaning that this bad boy would be closer to release.

FlyTheA380 · Post by **FlyTheA380** » 11 Apr 2010, 10:34

I can't take it anymore!

This bird is already ready to fly but the release takes longer than building it!

GRRR!

Tranceaddict · Post by **Tranceaddict** » 11 Apr 2010, 10:37

FlyTheA380 wrote:I can't take it anymore!

This bird is already ready to fly but the release takes longer than building it!

GRRR!

yup. you got that right.

now you know why groups never set release dates?

Daryl · Post by **Daryl** » 11 Apr 2010, 11:05

Hey, cant wait for this release. Just one question, will this be multiplayer compatible? When logged onto vatsim or any network your A320 family aircraft crash my sim when someone else flies one nearby.

Post by **GaryG** » 11 Apr 2010, 11:29

Daryl wrote:Hey, cant wait for this release. Just one question, will this be multiplayer compatible? When logged onto vatsim or any network your A320 family aircraft crash my sim when someone else flies one nearby.

That isn't a compatability issue. Check your settings in FS - Detect crashes and ...

well something like that, but again, I flew it in multiplayer, it is NOT a multiplayer issue, check your settings.

Regards.

PS: you can prove this by trying different aircraft, ending with the same result

Daryl · Post by **Daryl** » 11 Apr 2010, 11:59

I dont mean actually crashing into another aircraft, when in FSX and another PA A320 pops up FSX gets a fatal error.

See this thread: http://pairbus.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=44

Post by **esg** » 11 Apr 2010, 12:01

You'll have to contact Thomas Ruth

The A380 is compiled with the FS9 SDK and shouldn't have this issue

Tranceaddict · Post by **Tranceaddict** » 11 Apr 2010, 12:02

Daryl wrote:I dont mean actually crashing into another aircraft, when in FSX and another PA A320 pops up FSX gets a fatal error.

See this thread: http://pairbus.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=44

I've updated my response on that thread. Kindly pursue the matter on that thread. No more posts on this thread regarding the error you have.

Thanks.

CngDelta757 · Post by **CngDelta757** » 11 Apr 2010, 16:41

Cmon! I REALLY hope It will be realeased soon!