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Moving on, part 5

Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 12:50
by Alexis
Hi guys,

Following a brief period of hibernation, we've recently decided to get things back in action and resume work on the A380. Being that we don't work with deadlines, no release date has been (or will be) set.

We would like to thank every one of our supporters and those who have not lost faith in our group. We are aware there were a lot of foul talk doing the round and a lot of people who wrote us off as well as trash-talked as to the reason we decided to take our time-off. Dare we say that this project and where it stands today - is testimony to the fact that we did exactly what we said - take time off and do it on our own terms. As simple as that.

We appreciate everyone's interest in this project and in our group, however we will not be able to cater to any specific requests for additions to the features. We will do all that we can to make this to the best of our abilities but we have reached a freeze on systems and features for the model. So we'd appreciate if there are no posts made on this aspect or messages sent asking for changes.

Even though the original plans were to be more elaborate, we are extremely happy to have a wonderful team together and talent in doing what we have managed to do with this so far.

The A380 will be released for FS9, but similarly to the A320 series, it should be perfectly compatible with FSX.

The exterior model is made entirely in GMAX. As always, the focus was put on accuracy and performance, Fuselage cross-sections, wing profiles/airfoils, hundreds of videos/pictures, and whatever other references we could find were all used to this end, while a texture layout similar to the A320 series' keeps it running smoothly on lower-end systems.

The model features more custom (XML) animations than previous releases, some examples being:
  • Improved wing-flex effect. The wings react better to G-loads, ground spoilers flex them downwards on landing, wings droop more or less depending on fuel load
  • Typical control surface droop when the engines are off (including rudders)
  • Parallel bogies when on the ground, taking into account that when the aircraft is pitched upwards, the outer-main gears hang freely
  • Animated pack vents
  • Idle-reverser animation
  • Ground spoilers on the ground (including ailerons)
  • Accurate nosewheel movement. The nosewheel steering deflects progressively less at higher roll speeds, and should the aircraft come to a stop in mid-turn, the nosewheel retains its heading (as it should) and doesn't automagically come back to centre
  • Accurate LAF (Load Alleviation Function) simulation for the aileron movement. All 3 aileron sections move separately as they should (video examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKuwJG4a6Bw - real world, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbRsn25PJ7k - FS)
  • Windmilling engine fans. The fans react to oncoming airflow, be it due to wind or airspeed. Fan inertia is also modeled
  • New method of hiding unwanted antennas. They will no longer be hidden via the alpha channel, thereby avoiding the “fuselage holes” issue in FSX SP2
  • Animated window wipers in rain and snow
  • Animated nose and AoA sensors
The model will also feature accurate Airbus "double strobes" on the wings, many opening doors, opening cargo bays (including the bulk cargo), accurate gear extension/retraction sequences, transparent fan blades at high RPM, detailed flap and reverser mechanisms, etc.

The virtual cockpit model will be released after the wingview model, once the panel is complete.

On to the previews...

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Re: A380 preview

Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 13:08
by GaryG
Oh oh :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: can`t believe what I`ve been dreaming last night has become true. Oh thanks :)

P.s. In the title, re-write that you are a leading freeware flightsim design group. ;)

Thanks to all the team :)

Re: A380 preview

Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 14:28
by Sam Millar
Always did have faith in you guys to finish.. really really appreciate this guys. Thanks very much :)

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 16:32
by elwoodjetblues569
Great news. Glad to see you guys are back. :D :D :D :D :D :D

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 18:02
by Us Airways B757
Great to see you guys back, the team's magnificent work has been sorely missed in the Flight Sim world! I am so stoked for this release, it looks fantastic!

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 19:27
by Smutley
Just made my day with this announcement. After a bad day at work, I needed cheering up. :) :)

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 19:55
by sknepper
Wow guys. This is great news :D . When all went offline, so to speak, I was tremeandously upset as the work you guys gave to the community was better than any payware A318/19/20 :cry: . And it was done by the best team with plenty of great support on the forums. Now that you're back online with this announcement my tears are of great joy. This is great news. I'm speachless.....
:D :D :D
And that the A380 is still WIP, the emotions are coming up again. Fantastic news. Whooopiii :D :D
Nice to see what you guys are busy with. Sounds like a mammouth project, but the efforts won't go unnoticed by the lovers of your great works.

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 28 Nov 2009, 21:00
by DerKranich
Wow this made my day.

I can't wait to see some liveries on this beauty, especially Korean Air.

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 03:23
by groundwolf
A well deserved break indeed this is a very good day for all flight sim fans and fans of the airbus series of aircraft welcome back to the fold and the King of the skies sure does look impressive, my VA awaits this beauty for sure. Congrats on the return. And I think you will find those who did not appreciate you before certainly would now as they mightve realised exactly what they were missing ;).

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 04:02
by Atomic_13
This is fantastic news :D :D :D :D :D

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 13:25
by marf
Wow! I can't tell how glad I am to see you guys back! You really made my day! Take your time and I (as much as many others) will be looking forward to this fantastic aircraft! I'm sure it will be just great!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 13:37
by snakey-111
It looks amazing!!! It will be the best A380 out there for sure :D

I always knew someday Project Airbus would return, such amazing aircraft have been made byt you and I can't wait for future releases ;)

Im all happy now :D

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 14:24
by Plainplane
This is good to see, what an exciting way to end this holiday weekend! Looking forward to flying this in the future. :)

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 17:36
by rpjkw11
That is wonderful news indeed. PA aircraft are the ONLY Airbuses I fly.

Bob

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 29 Nov 2009, 18:42
by fcerven
Great news and take whatever time you need to complete this A380.

An idea on the VC when you get down the road that far. Tom Ruth has a great starting point (if not more) for the VC using his A340 panel . Collaborating with him when the work on the VC starts might be advantageous.

Looking forward to a great A380.

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 02:59
by DerKranich
Might I simply request any larger sizes of those photos? They would make for some amazing wallpapers.

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 03:12
by esg
DerKranich wrote:Might I simply request any larger sizes of those photos? They would make for some amazing wallpapers.
http://www.pairbus.com/derek/A380/1_1280.png
http://www.pairbus.com/derek/A380/2_1280.png

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 09:45
by marf
As your long awaited "comeback" struck me out of nothing, I was a bit speechless but I guess I found the right word now:

YEEEEEEEEEHHAAAAAAA!!!! :D ;)

And please delete that Farewell-post on the main page, so everyone understands that "the leading freeware flightsim design group" is back!

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 16:03
by a320flyer
This are amazing news!!!

Thank you so much. I can't await flying this beauty! :)

One question: Are you also planning after finishing the A380 to continue working on the A320 Series (A321 or sharklets)? It would be great.
But thank you very much for being back in business.

Regards

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 16:04
by esg
a320flyer wrote:One question: Are you also planning after finishing the A380 to continue working on the A320 Series (A321 or sharklets)? It would be great.
Don't know yet

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 16:05
by a320flyer
Ok. Thanks for the fast reply.

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 16:27
by Tranceaddict
It all depends on the talent that we have & any new talent that we can attract for FDE/Panel/Modellers etc. It was the same issue before... we struggled.. we took a break... we worked at it.. we're back.

Where we go, is again largely as Demetris said.. "dont know yet"

Are we still open for talent? Yes.

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 17:25
by GaryG
Just so that all of us understand clearly.... By "open for talent" what do you mean exactly?

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 17:34
by NoseGear
Glad to see you back! Can't wait for such a stunning A380!

You mentioned a panel, is PA going to make this or someone else? Is the virtual cabin still going to be included?

Thanks,
Faris

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 17:39
by Alexis
I cannot give you a clear answer on the panel. We'll get to it and see how it goes. The cabin can't coexist with the cockpit because of the renderer's limitation in FS9. It's either one or the other. You will be notified with updates when there is some progress that is worth mentioning, don't worry about that.

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 17:40
by NoseGear
Thanks.

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 19:54
by Triniboy
May I just say to the "PAirbus" team that the models in which you guys have produced so far are the most realistic aircrafts ever made for FS....along with the PMDG 747 ofcourse and I am not "gasing". I dread to even think exactly what a Project Airbus A330-A340 series may look like, especially after viewing your A380....JEEZE!!!. Or even a "Project Boeing" section. That would surely put Project Opensky out of business with their "UGLY CHUBBY WINGS"..lol. Their fuselage is perfect on the B777 though.... I sincerely hope that you guys are being paid your dues. To each member of the team---"you are a blessing" and I wish you the best in the up and coming future.

P.S. you shudnt scare simmers like dat again..lol

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 22:07
by Derek Mayer
PAIRBUSBEST wrote:Just so that all of us understand clearly.... By "open for talent" what do you mean exactly?
He means we are always open for applications from people wanting to help out or join the group. :geek:

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 23:12
by Darth Mop
hey if you need a beta tester (done flights on the 733, 744 and 763 full motion sims) or a painter (check http://royalskies.co.uk - flightsim gfx for my current stuff) just tell me - i'm here ;)

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 30 Nov 2009, 23:36
by Sam Millar
They BETA it themselves :)

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 01 Dec 2009, 13:31
by Tranceaddict
May I just say to the "PAirbus" team that the models in which you guys have produced so far are the most realistic aircrafts ever made for FS....along with the PMDG 747 ofcourse and I am not "gasing". I dread to even think exactly what a Project Airbus A330-A340 series may look like, especially after viewing your A380....JEEZE!!!. Or even a "Project Boeing" section. That would surely put Project Opensky out of business with their "UGLY CHUBBY WINGS"..lol. Their fuselage is perfect on the B777 though.... I sincerely hope that you guys are being paid your dues. To each member of the team---"you are a blessing" and I wish you the best in the up and coming future.

P.S. you shudnt scare simmers like dat again..lol
Thank you very much for the kind words. However we have never sought to be compared to other groups, either Airbus modellers or otherwise. Having said so, it is part of life and we often end up being put into a spot due to loyalties of followers on either side of the fence. In either case it doesnt matter to any of us in PA. We've said it before and we keep saying it. We do what we like and what we enjoy doing. We do what we CAN but make sure we give it everything we got.

We may not sport the swankiest website nor the largest supporters and definitely not the best forums, but i have got to say that i have probably worked with some of the best and most talented people in this business that i have had the good fortune of knowing and to be counted as a colleague to them is more than sufficient.

hey if you need a beta tester (done flights on the 733, 744 and 763 full motion sims) or a painter (check http://royalskies.co.uk - flightsim gfx for my current stuff) just tell me - i'm here ;)
Thanks for the offer but as someone mentioned, we do beta test it ourself. Painters are not really an issue.

What we really welcome is applications for modellers, FDE specialists and Panel designers.

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 01 Dec 2009, 13:55
by Partizan-cs
Good news!
:)

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 01 Dec 2009, 14:13
by FsRepaint
Guys! You did the best visual models of Airbus A32X. I am confident that the A380 will also be the best! I look forward to your new works. Good luck!

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 01 Dec 2009, 18:49
by The Pilot1
:( ... :o ... :shock: ... :D ...this is how I looked when I read this thread the first time. ;)

Great news!! I´m already looking forward to release!! :D

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 01 Dec 2009, 19:02
by Jason9001
What this bird looks so fantastic never seen it so fantastic :shock: :o :D

I'm really happy for you projects etc. and good to see 100% back really appricate you work ;)

Hope we never will loose you PAirbus 8-)

A little bad thing is no FSX model :(

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 01 Dec 2009, 19:18
by GaryG
Jason9001 wrote:What this bird looks so fantastic never seen it so fantastic :shock: :o :D

I'm really happy for you projects etc. and good to see 100% back really appricate you work ;)

Hope we never will loose you PAirbus 8-)

A little bad thing is no FSX model :(
it should be compatible just like their other models ;)

looks like you didn`t read enough :P

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 01 Dec 2009, 20:39
by Jason9001
PAIRBUSBEST wrote:
Jason9001 wrote:What this bird looks so fantastic never seen it so fantastic :shock: :o :D

I'm really happy for you projects etc. and good to see 100% back really appricate you work ;)

Hope we never will loose you PAirbus 8-)

A little bad thing is no FSX model :(
it should be compatible just like their other models ;)

looks like you didn`t read enough :P
I think you have right :P

And i know but you know its nice with a FSX model sometimes you be a bit bored of downloading only FS2004 models :?

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 01 Dec 2009, 20:47
by GaryG
Well I mostly fly with FSX and merged VC. Till now no problems and there shouldn`t be ;)

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 01 Dec 2009, 23:00
by Alexis
Yes, the VC merging in FSX is a great relief for people like me. The FPS however are a pain in the back.

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 01:34
by Jason9001
Alexis wrote:Yes, the VC merging in FSX is a great relief for people like me. The FPS however are a pain in the back.
That with the FPS don't sound good Alexis :?

What is you PC specs?

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 02:03
by Sam Millar
Sorry guys but I need to ask..

Does anyone know what font Demetrius used in the renders? :P

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 02:38
by esg
Sam Millar wrote:Sorry guys but I need to ask..

Does anyone know what font Demetrius used in the renders? :P
Who is "Demetrius"?

The renders were done by Derek. The font is Trebuchet MS

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 10:25
by Alexis
Jason9001 wrote:That with the FPS don't sound good Alexis :?

What is you PC specs?
You won't like it at all.
Core i7 920 overclocked @3,8GHz
6GB RAM @ 1140MHz
Radeon 4870x2 2GB

Average FPS over NYC with default 737: 8-9
With ultralight: 10-13
FPS on X-Plane, Far Cry 2, Fallout 3: 60-no more, no less
Bad programming.

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 14:46
by Jason9001
Alexis wrote:
Jason9001 wrote:That with the FPS don't sound good Alexis :?

What is you PC specs?
You won't like it at all.
Core i7 920 overclocked @3,8GHz
6GB RAM @ 1140MHz
Radeon 4870x2 2GB

Average FPS over NYC with default 737: 8-9
With ultralight: 10-13
FPS on X-Plane, Far Cry 2, Fallout 3: 60-no more, no less
Bad programming.
Its not look so bad i have 2 computers one of them run all games perfect and the other ok :)

Here is the specs of the new:
Processor : Intel® Core™ processor I7-920 S1366 2,66GHz 8MB 130W
Cache minne : 8 MB
Graphic card: 2x NVIDIA® GeForce® GT230 1.5GB SLI DVI/VGA/HDMI E0
Harddiskdrive : 640 GB SATA 7200rpm
Minne : DDR3 9216 MB (3x1G+3x2G) Triple Channel
MINOTAUR ATX GAMER CHASSIS 400W PSU FMC 21-1 E2

That was only some of the specs and as you can see the specs looks good ;)
The old have some ok specs :?

But if it is you want you PC to run you games full i think you need a new graphic card that should help ;)

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 14:50
by Tranceaddict
Guys.. keep the OT's ... OT ;)

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 16:06
by Alexis
Tranceaddict wrote:Guys.. keep the OT's ... OT ;)
Yep, got carried away... :D

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 02 Dec 2009, 23:12
by Jason9001
Sorry my fault :oops:

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 03 Dec 2009, 03:35
by DerKranich
so......

What liveries may our good friends Tom Collins and company paint on this beauty? Tom Collins is a good friend of mine, and I did ask if he could possibly squeeze in a Korean Air somewhere. We may see, but regardless I look forward to seeing whatever liveries there will be on it.

Though I do remember seeing a little hint of Singapore on the first ever previews, so I'm lead to believe...

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 03 Dec 2009, 12:59
by Tranceaddict
why speculate? It's not a rocket science. It should have every available livery on release.. if not, we intend to cover all the OPERATIONAL carriers operating this a/c as of release day.

The list of who's painting what may be put out later but it really is not of extreme importance to us. The final list of liveries will definitely be put out when its released.

Re: Moving on, part 5

Posted: 03 Dec 2009, 13:34
by Tom Collins
Sheldon's right - it's all a group effort on this project anyway.