A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

M@rco
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A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by M@rco »

After the completing of the A321 VC/Cabin and A320 V2.1 you guys did a lot of projects (A320 Family, A380). In my opinion the best Airbusses which are freeware.
But what will happen in the future? Are there any plans? I do not think that's all you did. Since starting A380 Project I looked every single day, maybe four times a day, into this forum to know how far is it going but when the day came which was the "end" of Project Airbus I was really sad. The coming back of PAirbus was very great. The only thing I can say is "Thank you". You are the best!

A321flyer
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by A321flyer »

A330

esg
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Post by esg »

A321flyer wrote:A330
There's no truth to that.

Nixpilot
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by Nixpilot »

why A330? there're enough A330/A340 out there. It's better to let PA deal with this issue.

A321flyer
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

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esg wrote:
A321flyer wrote:A330
There's no truth to that.
I know, just keeping my hopes up. :roll:
Nixpilot wrote:why A330? there're enough A330/A340 out there. It's better to let PA deal with this issue.
For FSX there is, the thomas ruth model, but for fs9, were stuck with mods and merges, and I dont like to say this, but the Overland A330/340 is lacking significantly in model detail. the CLS is okay, but very buggy and who knows how old the POSKY model is

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Post by hely1992 »

Actualy, A330 is really needed, no newer model for FS9, and although really great, Tom A330 is not very perfect in modeling and textures.
So, a PA A330 will be welcomed.

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by ceo.ostairva »

I hanker to a exclusive A330-200F on PA's-quality. The A332F of Tom is not so bad but I miss the high detail & quality of PA.

Grtz
Timo

karlli1221
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by karlli1221 »

i would think PA should start A350 some time around now and after few years of work the real A350 would be out and perhaps PA team could release their A350 at the same time of the real thing, but hey :lol: thats just my crazy idea again ;)

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

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Nop, not before the real one is on air. Usual discipline here on PA ;-).

Nixpilot
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by Nixpilot »

I prefer the overland A340-300 over any A340-300 out there.

As for A330, CLS beats overland but buggy. So I guess if PA does A330, I really hope it will be a good one. I don't fly it often.

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

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ceo.ostairva wrote:Nop, not before the real one is on air. Usual discipline here on PA ;-).
Really? I thought it's only POSKY who does that :? (and that's why the 787 is a stillborn :cry: they have modeled everything but waiting for the 787 to be flown then... nobody knows what happened to that model :roll: )

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Post by sinsnowman »

Agree with the A330/340 series, since the best we got from freeware for fs9 is ages old, seriously outdated from today's standard. And the A350 is too early to start its development since we're lacking of acurate data to start with, perhaps the A330/340 is the right choice.

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by Dominicana1879 »

Why not make an Airbus A300/A310? To be honest there is no good quality A300 out there except maybe the HNAC which is VERY old. I always wanted an A300-600R.

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

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karlli1221 wrote:
ceo.ostairva wrote:Nop, not before the real one is on air. Usual discipline here on PA ;-).
Really? I thought it's only POSKY who does that :? (and that's why the 787 is a stillborn :cry: they have modeled everything but waiting for the 787 to be flown then... nobody knows what happened to that model :roll: )
POSKY don't exist anymore.

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

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karlli1221 wrote:
ceo.ostairva wrote:Nop, not before the real one is on air. Usual discipline here on PA ;-).
Really? I thought it's only POSKY who does that :? (and that's why the 787 is a stillborn :cry: they have modeled everything but waiting for the 787 to be flown then... nobody knows what happened to that model :roll: )
How else would a plane be accurately modeled? After all, you can't just waltz into Toulouse or Everett to get all of the accurate and meticulous details, that goes for most virtual cockpits too, people always ask or complain there is no VC in FREEWARE, and same applies here; you can't just go into a cockpit nowadays to make an accurate model, especially not with planes that aren't even in commercial service yet (and most of the time, you'd need more than just photos for a model of say Hiroshi's standard anyhow).

Of course, you could just rush the developers to modeling a plane that's not out in the real world, complain about it, and say it's a crappy rush job and has the standards of Abacus jets (or even lower, if that was possible), that would be absolutely ridiculous and stupid.

In short, PA (and most freeware developers) are not miracle workers!

karlli1221
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by karlli1221 »

wow, didnt expect that amount of replies. :) anyways, i was only spilling out my crazy ideas like i did when i said something about a tail camera (gauge?) in the a380 vc.
I was quite looking forward to a PA A333/345/346 but everyone seems to like A332 or A343 so :?...

Srilanka
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by Srilanka »

Tavers wrote:
karlli1221 wrote:
ceo.ostairva wrote:Nop, not before the real one is on air. Usual discipline here on PA ;-).
Really? I thought it's only POSKY who does that :? (and that's why the 787 is a stillborn :cry: they have modeled everything but waiting for the 787 to be flown then... nobody knows what happened to that model :roll: )
POSKY don't exist anymore.
Isnt it FreeSkyProject now?

EB1515
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Post by EB1515 »

FreeSkyProject doesnt provide POSKY files any more, you can download them at projectopensky.com

M@rco
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by M@rco »

I think it is time for a poll: http://twtpoll.com/lcgkop

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Post by GaryG »

M@rco wrote:I think it is time for a poll: http://twtpoll.com/lcgkop
A poll....so easy to do. Ever heard of this quote by John F. Kennedy?

"Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country"

How about everybody get a bit of motivation to learn something new?

*sighs*

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by Srilanka »

GaryG wrote:
M@rco wrote:I think it is time for a poll: http://twtpoll.com/lcgkop
quote by John F. Kennedy?

"Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country"
I learnt this Thanks to Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2

M@rco
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by M@rco »

After two weeks of voting, here are the first results of the poll:

Airbus A300 2% (3 votes)
Airbus A310 0% (0 votes)
Airbus A330-200/300 25% (36 votes)
Airbus A340-200/300 3% (5 votes)
Airbus A340-500/600 70% (101 votes)

karlli1221
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by karlli1221 »

again, this wont change PA's plan (if theres one)

M@rco
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by M@rco »

I have never said that this poll should change PA's plan. It is just a poll!

M@rco
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by M@rco »

Only 4 days left:

Airbus A300 2 % (3 Votes)
Airbus A310 6 % (12 Votes)
Airbus A330-200/300 24 % (45 Votes)
Airbus A340-200/300 3 % (6 Votes)
Airbus A340-500/600 65 % (122 Votes)

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by A321flyer »

M@rco wrote:Only 4 days left:

Airbus A300 2 % (3 Votes)
Airbus A310 6 % (12 Votes)
Airbus A330-200/300 24 % (45 Votes)
Airbus A340-200/300 3 % (6 Votes)
Airbus A340-500/600 65 % (122 Votes)
Unbelievable, lets just hope this poll is not correct, I certainly do not fly the A340 model, and if i ever, its like once a year, I prefer the A330 the most. But this is just opinion. (come on A330!!)

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by Nixpilot »

I only want either the 330 or 343 to be build.. not 345/346.

:p

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Post by DerKranich »

I have made claim after claim about the A345/346 here until carpal tunnel syndrome feels like an afterthought. I usually keep quiet about it, but I think this claim is justified given that someone chose to bring up this thread on what PA should do next.

The last A345/346 model that is freeware AND FS9 compatible is Simubuild's, which is older than POSKY's A330/A340 and is horribly inaccurate.

Image

This jpeg helps get my point (and one possibly shared by others) across pretty clearly. I did post this picture back on the poll (made by actual PA members!) before the A321 was made official, only to have it fall on deaf ears. I will acknowledge that at the time, the A321 was more practical in its simplicity from the rest of the A32X series, and that PA made a lot of fans happy, but I am hoping people can actually see the logic in my claim.

I am in agreement that the A330 is a great plane (and the A342/343 depending on the livery) and that the amount of liveries to be painted on it from everyone including myself is almost limitless (I do have some ideas on what I will paint, should the A330 be the next model from PA). However, I feel that the A345/346 has been neglected for a bit too long, and needs to be given justice. I have faith that PA can do so as much as they have with the A32X family, the A380, and anything else they choose to make. Granted if they choose to make the A346, I would be hoping for a nice Lufthansa paint to go with it (anything else is gravy) and that if they were to actually be making it behind the scenes and show previews tomorrow, we will not be able to have it on our harddrives for months, if not longer if the A380 hiatus taught us anything.

To PA: It doesn't matter so much what you choose to make next as I will admire the fruits of your labor at the levels which are deemed appropriate at the time, but please do the FS community a favor and make it FS9 compatible!

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Post by esg »

It will be FS9 compatible.

M@rco
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by M@rco »

Here are the final results:

Airbus A300 1 % (3 Votes)
Airbus A310 12 % (27 Votes)
Airbus A330-200/300 24 % (55 Votes)
Airbus A340-200/300 3 % (8 Votes)
Airbus A340-500/600 59 % (136 Votes)

esg
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by esg »

Well, it's unfortunate these don't matter. lol

M@rco
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by M@rco »

Yeah I know. But as I sad it was only a poll not a "have-to-do". What you do is your decision.

esg
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by esg »

What was the poll for then?

M@rco
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by M@rco »

The poll was more or less a question which shows you what kind of aircraft the community would like to see and again not a "have-to-do"-list. Do you understand?

esg
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by esg »

Dunno

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by GoldLeader »

Why is no one saying anything about Airbus Beluga?

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by ReneM. »

common guys, let's give them a little break for beyond projects. They did a great job for me/us and other user who have fun with PA.

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ReneM. wrote:common guys, let's give them a little break for beyond projects. They did a great job for me/us and other user who have fun with PA.
I absolutely agree with you. They're doing it for free, not wanting anything in return. I just pointed out about the Beluga, since, you know, it's very nice, but no one ever pointed it out :P

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

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Tavers wrote: POSKY don't exist anymore.

we may not be POSKY anymore but we sure do STILL exist

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by Tavers »

heh, as a bunch of numpties with no projects, no talent and no chance of ever doing anything worthwhile except live off the hard work of others. Yes, you're the shiz.

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by EB1515 »

Will there be any PA-Models for X-Plane 10 in 2012?:)

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EB1515 wrote:Will there be any PA-Models for X-Plane 10 in 2012?:)
Highly unlikely, as they model exclusively for FS as it is very easy to alter the coding for add-ons. Aside from that, I hear the coding for X-plane is rather complicated for add-on software.

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Any comment why the download page of PA lists the A330 and A340 on the right side...

http://www.pairbus.com/downloads

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

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Delta777 wrote:Any comment why the download page of PA lists the A330 and A340 on the right side...

http://www.pairbus.com/downloads
A premonition.... :P for 2012..(A330 hopefully)

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

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Because we're Project "Airbus". Maybe one of our children will work on these! :P

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Alexis wrote:Because we're Project "Airbus". Maybe one of our children will work on these! :P
Nice try, A300 and A310 should be up there, then.

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Post by Alexis »

Indeed. BTW, Tom Ruth has released the 300/Beluga/310 series for FSX, as well as FS9 source files on avsim for those interested. I gave the A300 VC a try but I was too occupied with the 380,320 and 717 to work on it.

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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by DerKranich »

Kyle Schurb wrote:
Alexis wrote:Because we're Project "Airbus". Maybe one of our children will work on these! :P
Nice try, A300 and A310 should be up there, then.
I was thinking the same thing.
Delta777 wrote:Any comment why the download page of PA lists the A330 and A340 on the right side...

http://www.pairbus.com/downloads
Good eyes. Now that the drop of blood is in the water, the feeding frenzy is almost inevitable at this stage. I see nothing on their twitter...yet.

A321flyer
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by A321flyer »

DerKranich wrote:
Kyle Schurb wrote:
Alexis wrote:Because we're Project "Airbus". Maybe one of our children will work on these! :P
Nice try, A300 and A310 should be up there, then.
I was thinking the same thing.
Delta777 wrote:Any comment why the download page of PA lists the A330 and A340 on the right side...

http://www.pairbus.com/downloads
Good eyes. Now that the drop of blood is in the water, the feeding frenzy is almost inevitable at this stage. I see nothing on their twitter...yet.
As I have said before:
A321flyer wrote:A premonition.... :P for 2012..(A330 hopefully)

ReneM.
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Re: A320 Family, A380 and beyond...

Post by ReneM. »

Wow A330 would be amazing. I can't imagine how amazing it would be. Sure I can, but I can't belive how beautiful it would be. I mean at first the A330 :D. Then with wingflex and the landing gear. Hopefully you'll doing this Guys.
You had done the A320 Family and A380. So you can doing the A330. Nothing more to wish from PA.

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