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esg
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Re: 717

Post by esg »

What? They're moving in sync

dotsalgon
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Re: 717

Post by dotsalgon »

Hmm.. at 03:00 min when he retracked the flaps, it seamed like the 1st slat form the edge is not in sync...
But my eyes ware playing tricks.. in that video at 02:45 slats are in sync...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmW3FMTwO4U

iheart707
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Re: 717

Post by iheart707 »

Somewhere in this world, an English teacher is crying....

dotsalgon
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Re: 717

Post by dotsalgon »

Let the teacher cry as long as he want!s!

I am GREEK!!
Would you like me to write in Greek??? :evil:

Alexis
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Re: 717

Post by Alexis »

iheart707 wrote:Somewhere in this world, an English teacher is crying....
dotsalgon wrote:Let the teacher cry as long as he want!s!
I can see these two quotes coming from another topic. Keep things tidy guys! To keep things on topic, I found some time to add gauges tonight. You can also see that there is VC rain there.
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dotsalgon
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Re: 717

Post by dotsalgon »

WOW! Looks good!!
And the eyebrow too!! :P

GaryG
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Re: 717

Post by GaryG »

Oh look... My gauge doesn't look that bad.... thanks :)

Alexis
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Re: 717

Post by Alexis »

PAIRBUSBEST wrote:Oh look... My gauge doesn't look that bad.... thanks :)
Why should it?

GaryG
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Re: 717

Post by GaryG »

Because I never saw it in the VC

:/

Alexis
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Re: 717

Post by Alexis »

Stuff has been remodeled in the VC. Added seats (almost all of it), yokes and made some corrections:
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I have also implemented the cabin's walls, wings, engines and a few seats. I want to add the rest of the seats but the trick doesn't want to work... The only cabin animation ATM are the trays that can be opened/closed.
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Bad news is that the FD is crap all the way-the a/c is unflyable... If anyone has a good idea of how this stuff works, PM me.

dotsalgon
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Re: 717

Post by dotsalgon »

Great pics! And do not worry... there will be a solution. As we Greeks say "Ola gia kalo" ;)

Alexis
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Re: 717

Post by Alexis »

Now we're cookin'!!! No more detail limits for me!

[youtube]455-lKhgVV4[/youtube]

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Re: 717

Post by Inbreker »

Alexis, I think that the gauges you have in that cockpit are from the FS2004 B777 right? I don't know it for sure, but won't that mean you will need a complete new set of gauges for FSX? As I don't think the B777's are still included.

GaryG
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Re: 717

Post by GaryG »

Hi, I will be doing the gauges. If you noticed correctly, the EICAS is not of the 777. That was made by me and is compatible with both FSX and FS2004 since it is XML. Just trust us ;)

We all know what we're doing ;)

Flyboy92
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Re: 717

Post by Flyboy92 »

I just found this project, and I must say it looks impressive! This is one of my favorite aircraft.

I'm glad somebody finally decided to model another 717, as it is severely lacking in the Flight Sim world!
I'm also glad to see this one will have a Virtual Cockpit.

Alexis, keep up the great work, cannot wait for the release!

I have some pictures of the 717 sitting around if you need any. Let me know!

Flyboy92

Alexis
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Re: 717

Post by Alexis »

Pics of the 717? Push 'em forward!

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Post by Alexis »

Did some more minor stuff. I keep finding bugs, without much effort. That's not good, but they're being ironed out.
Here's another video I made yesterday, showcasing some wet animations (literally).
[youtube]3zIi2yfkgD0[/youtube]
Just something to keep you occupied until the 380 comes around -and while the exams are closing in. :S

Inbreker
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Re: 717

Post by Inbreker »

PAIRBUSBEST wrote:Hi, I will be doing the gauges. If you noticed correctly, the EICAS is not of the 777. That was made by me and is compatible with both FSX and FS2004 since it is XML. Just trust us ;)

We all know what we're doing ;)
Great. I just thought I recognized it from FS2004. Haven't played it for a couple of years now. Keep the good work up!

iheart707
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Re: 717

Post by iheart707 »

Alexis wrote:Did some more minor stuff. I keep finding bugs, without much effort. That's not good, but they're being ironed out.
Here's another video I made yesterday, showcasing some wet animations (literally).

Just something to keep you occupied until the 380 comes around -and while the exams are closing in. :S
Looks great! I wasn't expecting a bathroom, but cool! However, the red beacon seems to be flashing inside the cabin which is a common problem in Virtual Cabins. Is there any way to avoid that in FS2004 or X?

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Re: 717

Post by seaheroz »

Alexis wrote:Did some more minor stuff. I keep finding bugs, without much effort. That's not good, but they're being ironed out.
Here's another video I made yesterday, showcasing some wet animations (literally).
Just something to keep you occupied until the 380 comes around -and while the exams are closing in. :S
Good luck for your EXAM

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Re: 717

Post by Alexis »

iheart707 wrote:
Alexis wrote: However, the red beacon seems to be flashing inside the cabin which is a common problem in Virtual Cabins. Is there any way to avoid that in FS2004 or X?
None that I know of. But something just came to my mind....

Derek Mayer
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Re: 717

Post by Derek Mayer »

I think the fx file can be defined to not be visible on the interior, but then it wouldn't illuminate the wings when it flashed.

Alexis
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Post by Alexis »

I suppose if I made a part of the outside surface of the fuselage, it'd recognise these normals and not come through the model. I'll test it and see.

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Re: 717

Post by DerKranich »

I agree with Alexis on the photos. We need them. I especially would appreciate some detailed shots of the area near the engines. I feel like I'm losing sleep at the mere thought of texturing that area. :?

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Re: 717

Post by dotsalgon »

Do these help?
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Jetstar- ... 0640883/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/AirTran/ ... 0527037/L/

Or maybe these?

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o177 ... oeing5.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o177 ... g717_7.jpg

and.. Alex? When you'll release it... can you also release a paint kit? I wanna do an Olympic Airways one! :D

EDIT: There seams to be a hole at the root of the tail!! ?? :shock:

Alexis
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Post by Alexis »

Yes, there is a hole. And there will be a paint kit. But we'll progress work during summer, as the exams are four days away.

dotsalgon
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Post by dotsalgon »

Oh.. Good luck on the exams! (Να τρως πολυ σοκολατα, κανει καλο στο διαβασμα και στην απομνημονευση!)
I can wait.. no prob!! By then I might be a better painter!! :D

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Post by iheart707 »

dotsalgon wrote:Do these help?
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Jetstar- ... 0640883/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/AirTran/ ... 0527037/L/

Or maybe these?

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o177 ... oeing5.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o177 ... g717_7.jpg

and.. Alex? When you'll release it... can you also release a paint kit? I wanna do an Olympic Airways one! :D

EDIT: There seams to be a hole at the root of the tail!! ?? :shock:
It's for the APU that's built into the tail, resulting in a hole for the air to flow to the mini turbine which then produces power (Electrical, Pneumatic, and limited hydraulics) to the aircraft. Its placement is very similar to the CRJ's.

flightsimer
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Post by flightsimer »

dotsalgon wrote:and.. Alex? When you'll release it... can you also release a paint kit? I wanna do an Olympic Airways one! :D
an olympic airways paint is planned along with the rest of them.

dotsalgon
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Post by dotsalgon »

Great! :D
Can't wait!! (<-- Just as an expresion!! I can wait!) LOL

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Post by Thickfog »

Inbreker wrote:Alexis, I think that the gauges you have in that cockpit are from the FS2004 B777 right? I don't know it for sure, but won't that mean you will need a complete new set of gauges for FSX? As I don't think the B777's are still included.
Just import the file 777-300.gau from the main FS2004 gauges folder in the main FSX gauges folder...it works all the same

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Post by GaryG »

Thickfog wrote:
Inbreker wrote:Alexis, I think that the gauges you have in that cockpit are from the FS2004 B777 right? I don't know it for sure, but won't that mean you will need a complete new set of gauges for FSX? As I don't think the B777's are still included.
Just import the file 777-300.gau from the main FS2004 gauges folder in the main FSX gauges folder...it works all the same
You are assuming he has both FS9 and FSX. However, don't worry.

iheart707
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Re: 717

Post by iheart707 »

With more than two weeks since the last post, any progress?

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Re: 717

Post by AirNewZealand_A320 »

Alex Has Had major Exams, I have had major exams, no progress on panel as of late. Im Not Entirely sure how Gary is going with guages.

flightsimer
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Re: 717

Post by flightsimer »

paints also wont be started until the model gets pretty close to completion or when Alex thinks its ready to start being toyed with in the painting department lol

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Re: 717

Post by GaryG »

AirNewZealand_A320 wrote:Alex Has Had major Exams, I have had major exams, no progress on panel as of late. Im Not Entirely sure how Gary is going with guages.
Gary = me.

I will continue the gauges from next Tuesday.


Wish me luck for my last exam :D

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Re: 717

Post by AirNewZealand_A320 »

GOOD LUCK GUYS ITS EXAMS ALL ROUND!!!!

flightsimer
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Re: 717

Post by flightsimer »

thank god my exams are done and over with and im already on summer break...

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Re: 717

Post by GaryG »

Hi all,

If you were wondering whether I keep my promises or not, well, here's a proof.

Another page of the EICAS under heavy WIP.

I will try to do the PFD soon, but need to get acquainted with the mask images.

Till then, enjoy.

Image

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Post by fcerven »

Quote :Hi all,

If you were wondering whether I keep my promises or not, well, here's a proof.

Another page of the EICAS under heavy WIP.

I will try to do the PFD soon, but need to get acquainted with the mask images.

Till then, enjoy. Quote:

Thanks for the update PAIRBUSBEST.

I have one request for the FSX version (maybe the FS9 version also) since you are working on the cockpit instruments. For those of us that fly the VC, It would be nice to have at least a space to incorporate a basic FMC in the VC like Garrett Smith's Honeywell FMC. I already have it set up as a pop-up but incorporating it into the VC would be much more realistic and would move us one step closer to the real thing. I am by no means an interior model programmer but would it be possible to make the space where the FMC would go in the cockpit come with a dummy FMC (as usual for freeware) but allow replacement with a third party FMC of our choice. I have no payware aircraft and am happy with the basic VNAV functionality which Garrett's FMC provides.

If it's not too late, would it also be possible to get back with the rest of the Project Airbus group and include a spot for the FMC in the A380 VC also.

Thanks for the great work. We've needed a 717 with a functional VC for FSX for a long time.

FC

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Re: 717

Post by Alexis »

fcerven wrote: I have one request for the FSX version (maybe the FS9 version also) since you are working on the cockpit instruments. For those of us that fly the VC, It would be nice to have at least a space to incorporate a basic FMC in the VC like Garrett Smith's Honeywell FMC. I already have it set up as a pop-up but incorporating it into the VC would be much more realistic and would move us one step closer to the real thing. I am by no means an interior model programmer but would it be possible to make the space where the FMC would go in the cockpit come with a dummy FMC (as usual for freeware) but allow replacement with a third party FMC of our choice. I have no payware aircraft and am happy with the basic VNAV functionality which Garrett's FMC provides.
FC
Regarding the 717: it is planned. If Garett permits us to distribute it as well, it would be great -and with the FMC implemented. Else, I will have the FMC set up. That means you'll have to d/l the 717 and FMC separately, then edit the panel.cfg or use a ready one I'll make, so that it appears in place.
Regarding the 380: Gary is not in PA, don't confuse the two projects. I am planning on implementing an FMC setup, so anyone who knows how to do it will be able to add an FMC gauge.

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Re: 717

Post by fcerven »

Great!

Didn't expect a reply so quickly.

I know how to edit a panel config and I already have Garrett's FMC. All that is need are the coordinates and size of the opening.

Again, Great and thank you.

Looking forward to this.

FC

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Re: 717

Post by iheart707 »

We were looking to replace some of our CRJ-700 routes with the 717 on our VA. However I had a question about the actual model of the 717-200 you were modeling. With the 717-200BGW, it can carry about 44,170 lb's however the 717-200HGW can carry 50,210 lb's which is a huge difference. I am not sure if there are any major model differences between the two, but more or less, which one are you modeling. The HGW or the BGW?

flightsimer
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Re: 717

Post by flightsimer »

things like that are just done within the FDE most of the time. Its just simply changing weights around and adjusting to proper thrust if there is a difference. That is most of the time though. Some times there are actual differences between the variants in the plane itself (bigger tires for example). I dont believe the 717 has any of these differences and it was just simply an increase in weight and fuel capacity along with uprated engines.

As for ours Im not sure what alex is planning. Im Sure he will be able to tell you.

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Re: 717

Post by Alexis »

Well, once I find my way around the FDE, I don't think there will be a problem changing the max fuel capacity. I'd say, let's get there first, then we do both.

GaryG
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Re: 717

Post by GaryG »

A little pfd screenie of heavy WIP does no harm !

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Re: 717

Post by Atomic_13 »

PAIRBUSBEST wrote:A little pfd screenie of heavy WIP does no harm !
it looks great :D

dotsalgon
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Re: 717

Post by dotsalgon »

Hey Alex! How is it going with the B717! ;)

Alexis
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Re: 717

Post by Alexis »

Working mainly to finish the A380. Doing some work on it as well.

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Re: 717

Post by sknepper »

Every time I check out the progress I am really surprised. Nice work Alexis. And the many animations inside the cabin are fantastic.

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