SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

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Post by fdd_fr » 16 Dec 2013, 21:08

New airport , one of the bigger in the world :



PARIS Charles de Gaulle - LFPG : LFPG - Paris Charles de Gaulle

- 100 SID (12 are missing, because my FMC can manage only 102 SID max)
- 30 STAR
- 32 Approaches

Build with the lastest SIA charts (december 2013 )


I had no test all procedures. Please, report to me if there are errors.

Read the txt file to know the takeoff and landing runways.

Full working with Aerosoft LFPG X addon scenery.

I have posted a small update of two XML files for the panel in the dedicated thread.

Good flight


Francois

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Post by fdd_fr » 20 Dec 2013, 12:44

New airport for the A320 FD-FMC :

realized by Jean-pierre Varnier : Grenoble - Saint Geoirs ; an Airport in french Alps


LFLS - Grenoble Saint-Geoirs - France



Arrival by the STAR MOU 1.ARBON with holding pattern by front entrance full managed by the FMC and 09 ILS approach :



Image


Francois

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by georgegeo » 20 Dec 2013, 13:47

Hello!

Is it possible or could you please add on one folder all the SID/STAR/APPROACH from all the airports you have done so far, so it should be easier to download them?

Best regards,
George! :)

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Post by fdd_fr » 20 Dec 2013, 17:31

Hi George,


All the aiports completed are on this website : FreeNav DB Group

I post the french link because, sometimes, there is a bug in the translation function of the website and the latest airports don't appear.

click on the 4 links at the bottom of the page to get the ICAO from A to F , G to N .........

Francois

There are 75 airports at the moment.

Francois

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by georgegeo » 21 Dec 2013, 16:45

Perfect! thanks a lot!

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Post by fdd_fr » 26 Dec 2013, 17:14

Hi,

I have updated KMSO - Missoula Intl in the Montana - USA . This airport, is surrounded by high mountain . Fred Cerven had realized the first version with the SID I have updated this SID and added STAR and Approaches.

KMSO - Missoula Intl Airport Montana USA


It is a very beautiful and difficult airport, and I hope that you have ORBX North Rocky Mountains scenery for the beauty of the pictures !

There is an updated panel for the aircraft in the FD_FMC thread (now in version 0.69) which fix many bugs

Good flight


Francois

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Post by fdd_fr » 03 Jan 2014, 10:35

Hi,

Happy new year to everybody !


2 new airports :


CYUL - Montreal Pierre Elliot Trudeau - Canada full, with SID/STAR/Approaches, realisez by Jean-pierre78.
First Canandian airport of the database


and PAJN - Juneau Intl - Alaska USA full also, but be careful, it is a difficult airport, only with visul final approaches. It must be compatible with the FTX/ORBX PAJN scenery.



I have updated the complete pack of the 77 airports :
Complete Pack of 77 airports updated the january 3 2014



I have created a KMZ file to Google Earth, with all the airports of the Database : KMZ file to google earth with all realized airports
Colour codes are the following :
- Green : Airports with only SID
- Blue : Airports with only SID and STAR
- red : Airports with all SID/STAR and approahces data




Here is the listing of the database in PDF format : PDF Airports Index


We work actually on the following airports : NZQN (Queenstown New Zealand) , YMML Melbourne and YBBN Brisbanne, Australia to have he pleasure to flight with ORBX scenery.

Good Flight


Francois
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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 04 Jan 2014, 09:24

New airport, realized byr VHS; It is the first for Oceania (New Zealand South Island) : This is Queenstown Airport, which exist a very beautiful FTX/ORBX scenery :


NZQN - Queenstown - New Zealand South Island

Important : This airport is for experiment pilots, because it is surrounded by moutains and all the final approaches are in visual/manual mode ! Read the .txt file in the airport folder !

Many thanks to VHS



KMZ file updated to Google Earth : KMZ file to google earth with all realized airports

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Post by fdd_fr » 04 Jan 2014, 15:00

There was a little error in one of the approach file (UPGED.csv) of NZQN - Queenstown. I have just upload the fixed version. The link above is always the same.


VHS a prepared a new airport from New Zealand : NZDN - Dunedin

You can download here : NZDN - Dunedin - New Zealand

thanks Vhs !

Francois

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Post by fdd_fr » 05 Jan 2014, 09:58

Hi,

First australian airport : YBBN Brisbane Intl , fully compatible with AU Gold & Brisbane Airport ORBX/FTX sceneries



YBBN - Brisbane Intl Airport - Australia


Francois

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Post by fdd_fr » 12 Jan 2014, 14:57

2 new airports, compatibles with FTX/ORBX sceneries :


YMML - Melbourne Intl - Australia




NZCH - Christchurch - New Zealand

Under construction :
- Wellington - New Zealand
- Dubaï - United Arab emirates (will works with fly tampa scenery)


New beta version of the panel avaliable on the FD_FMC thread.

Francois

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Post by fdd_fr » 15 Jan 2014, 18:14

Hi,

New completed airport :

DUBAÏ Intl Airport - United Arab Emirates

Fully compatible with Fly Tampa - Dubaï Rebooted V2.1 Scenery.


read the TXT file, because some STARs are dedicated to heavy aircraft (long path) and I hope adapt FD-FMC on the A380 as quickly as possible.

Francois.

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Post by fdd_fr » 19 Jan 2014, 18:23

2 new airports and 1 update :


The news :

NZWN - Wellington - New Zealand created by VHS


KJAC - Jackson Hole - Wyoming USA
Fully Compatible with the FTX/ORBX Jackson Hole Airport scenery



and one update (a SID fixed ) :

LFML - Marseille Provence - France SID corrected by Michel Rapp

reag the TXT file for each airports.

Google KMZ file updated : Google airports kmz map


Francois

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 01 Feb 2014, 09:19

Hi,

Some updates and a new airport

Update of KJAC - Jackson Hole, about the teardrop turn procedure in one of tis STAR
KJAC - Jackson Hole - Wyoming - USA v3.01


KBOI - Boise/Gowen Field Idaho USA. The previous version, realized by Fred Cerven had only SID. Now airport is completed with STAR and Approaches.
KBOI airport/Gowen Field - Idaho - USA v3.01


Update of Wellington - New Zealand by VHS :
NZWN - Wellington - New Zealand V3.10


New airport realizd by VHS : Auckland - New Zealand :
NZAA - Auckland Intl Airport - New Zealand


Update of the KMZ file for google earth : All Freenav DB Group Airports


François

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Post by fdd_fr » 11 Feb 2014, 18:29

Hi,

New airport (with SID/STAR/APPR), realized by Jean-Pierre varnier :

CYYZ - Toronto Lester B Pearson Intl Airport - Canada

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Post by fdd_fr » 21 Feb 2014, 19:31

New Canadian airport made by Jean-pierre Varnier (with SID/STAR & Approaches)

link to download :
CYQB - Quebec Lesage Intl. - Quebec - Canada

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Post by fdd_fr » 24 Feb 2014, 21:41

Hi,

I have updated EDDM - Munchen Intk Airport with STAR and Appoaches and fisex some SID
No tet yet withe Aerosoft scenery.

EDDM - Munchen - Germany


KMZ file update(ggogle Earth) All the realized aiports : KMZ file for ggogle earth, unpdate february 24


Francois

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Post by fdd_fr » 09 Mar 2014, 19:06

Hi,

New airport in 2 versions : LSZH - Zurich Flughafen Intl - Switzerland

The first version is to be used with the stock FSX airport , because there isn't ILS or LOC on the runway 28 :
LSZH - Zurich Flughafen Airport - Switzerland - FSX stock Version




The second version is for those who use the FS DreamTeam scenery or an updated AFCAD , with the ILS and LOC of the runway 28 available :
LSZH - Zurich Flughafen Airport - Switzerland - Special version for FSDT scenery or updated AFCAD about runway ILS 28


In all all case, you will must rename the folder, after unzip in "LSZH".

Thanks


Francois



Bon vol.

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Post by fdd_fr » 15 Mar 2014, 07:38

Hi,

Update of LFLB - Aix les Bains - Chambery France , by Michel because a SID had a wrong Wpt :

LFLB - Aix les Bains Chambery France Update

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Post by fdd_fr » 19 Mar 2014, 18:10

I am no "up to date" but there is a new AIRAC of Graham Mitchell since january 7 , 2014

Go to his website to download : http://www.gbmitch.net/

All the next airports or updates will be buikd with this AIRAC.

You must delete the old "Airac.bgl" file of your "addon\Scenery\" folder, because he changed the name of the file and if you keep the 2 files, the waypooints will be duplicated.

Francois

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Post by fdd_fr » 22 Mar 2014, 19:47

Update of LFRG - Deauville Saint Gratien France. The previous version had wrong altitude constraint in STAR and approaches and it was impossible to land.


LFRG - Deauville Saint-gratien - France

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Post by fdd_fr » 03 May 2014, 13:33

Hi,

Until today, all the database freenavdebgroup was stored on a friend website.

I have buy the domain and a host server.


Official Free Nav DB Group Website is open : http://freenavdbgroup.com/

This is the beginning of the construction, and It is in french for the moment. But english coming soon.

All the airports database file has been transfered.

it still many works to do , but the priority was the airport files was avalaible. Now I finish the panel, before improve the website.

Francois

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 19 May 2014, 11:48

Hi,

The FD-FMC is now completed and A320 FD-FMC version is OK . It remains to me to write the definitive user manual before publish the A320 on AVSIM.

About the FreNav Data base, I decided to give up the Graham Mitchell AIRAC and create our own AIRAC file.

Why ?

Because the G.Mitchell AIRAC has a internal problem (waypoints are not properly declared inside) and It makes the FSX flight planer unusable. The second reason is that I don't want to be dependent of an external file. And the third reason is that his AIRAC is big with many waypoints duplicated, or with a wrong region code.

So, I learned how to create an AIRAC in BGL file, and I started to modified all the existing airports and build the FreeNav Airac. And it also allows me to check the existing airports of the database, to have a starting DB perfect.

this work will take 2 or 3 weeks, and when it willbe completed, I will publish the aircraft, the new database and the FreeNavDBgroup Airac.

When I will publish the aircraft, I will publish also a new SID/STAR/Approach manual , with more informations, to create new airports. There will be all the tools, necessary to create airport files.

I believe in the success of FD-FMC, and I want a perfect product.

When this job will be comleted, I will adapt quickly FD-FMC to A318, A319 and A321 (one to 2 weeks per aircraft). And when the A330/A340 will be ready, I will adapt FD-FMC on them

and I hope that many people join us in the Free Nav DB Group, to buid many airports !

So wait one month and the project will be a release.

Today, you can fly on the last beta which works without bugs and you can download it on the Freenav website (Aircraft complete pack beta 0.77 + patch 0.77b for the panel) : http://freenavdbgroup.com/

After 2 years of work and more than 30 000 lines of xml code, I am happy ! :D

Francois

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by ricardo404 » 23 May 2014, 09:42

The Francois I wanted to seal to your group because I am looking to create a few sid and star of some airports of my parents here in brazil and its web site db-onlinefr does not ta working here 8-)

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Post by fdd_fr » 23 May 2014, 14:38

Hi Ricardo,

Your welcome !

Db-online.fr is not dead, but it is website of one of my friend, and he hosted my files for 2 years, because I havn't website until today.

Now, I have buy the domain name FreNavdbgroup and I am creating a official l Free Nav DB Group Website :

http://freenavdbgroup.com

Website is only in fench today, but it will be translate in english next.It is under construction. Use google translation service to translate in your language.

All the actual Airports database is here now, and also the last aircraft beta version pack.

It is a real pleasure if you want to join the group to create airports, but wait one or two weeks to work, because we are changing our database system. UNtil today, the Airport database was based on the Graham Mitchell Airac file (wihich add many missing waypoints in FSX). BUt this AIRAC file has some bug (the FSX flight planer become unusable with it). So we have decide to stop use this AIRAC and build our own AIRAC.

So since one week, I adapt existing airports and build the first freenav AIRAC file. The job will take 2 or 3 weeks (there are 80 airports to adapt). And I am writing a new SID/STAR/APPROACH user guide with new informations and the process to create missing waypoints.

So, please wait 2 or 3 weeks before work on an airpor, the time for me tio finish the new databse and manual.

I will post tonight the old user manual; you will can begin to read it,because many things havn't change; the new process is only to create missing waypoint and the no-use of the graham Mitchell AIRAC.

I will come back here quickly for more information.

Francois

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Post by ricardo404 » 23 May 2014, 22:15

Ta ok francois will wait ... aaa lingua French does not have problem there is nothing that our friend google translator fassa the service more worth esa apologize for bad english 8-)

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 19 Jul 2014, 16:15

Hi,

Now, from today, on the freenavdbgroup Website, I have began to post the new Airports based on the the Freenav AIRAC file.

All the old airports, based on the G.Mitchell AIRAC has been grouped in a single archive file.

You can't use the 2 AIRAC at the same time. You must chooze, but the the new version of airports have been checked and completed. They have all SID, STAR and Approachs, and I think that all errors have been fixed.

There are the following airports in for today in the new database :

CYQB 4.00
CYUL 4.00
CYYZ 4.00
DTTA 4.00
EBBR 4.00
EDDB 4.00
EDDB special Freeware version Gernot Zander
EDDF 4.00
EDDF 4.00 special Aerosoft version
EDDH 4.00
EDDM 4.00
EGGL 4.00
EGJB 4.00
EGJJ 4.00
EHAM 4.00
GCRR 4.00
LSZB 4.00

All airports have now the version 4.xx.

The AIRAC file is downloadable on the website.

I will try to add new airprots as quickly as possible. Think that for each new airport, there will a new version of the AIRAC file to download, to replace the previous version.

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by hvw » 19 Jul 2014, 16:40

Thank you very much for all your efforts, Francois. What to do with the FD_FMS folder? Can that one deleted now?

Best,
Hans

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 20 Jul 2014, 08:09

System has not changed. New airports must be placed in the FD_FMC folder, like the old databse.

The only thing that changes is the AIRAC file. You must delete the G.Mitchell files in the \addon Scenery\Scenery\ folder and replace by the Freenav AIRAC.

Old Airports of the FD_FMC folder that has been realized with the G.Mitchell AIRAC may not work perfectly, because there are some waypoints that will not created when you load a SID, STAR approach. but I work as quickly as possible to uppdate all airports.


François

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Post by hvw » 20 Jul 2014, 08:55

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

Hans

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Post by fdd_fr » 28 Jul 2014, 09:04

Hello,

I'm looking for someone who would have the courage to translate the SID/STAR/Approach manual that I have wrote form French to English.

I have many work at that moment, because I write the FD-FMC manual and I translate all the old airport database to the new version with the FreenNav AIRAC and days do 24 hous only. THis is a Word document of 100 sheets (but with many pictures).

Please, if someone can help me......

I will post tomorrow 3 new airport completed and fixed with the new AIRAC :

- EFHK Helsinki (Aerosoft compatible)
- EIDW Dublin (Aerosoft compatible)
- LFPG Paris (aerosoft cmpatible)

and the new AIRAC.


Thanks

François

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Post by fdd_fr » 07 Aug 2014, 17:33

Hi,

Today, an update of 4 airports of the new airports system database with the Freenav AIRAC :

You can download here : http://freenavdbgroup.com/?page_id=82

The 4 new airports updated are :

- EIDW 4.00 DUBLIN IRELAND
- EYVI 4.00 VILNIUS LITHUANIA
- LIML 4.00 MILANO Linate ITALIA
- LFPG 4.00 PARIS CHARLES DE GAULLE FRANCE


Freenav AIRAC AIRAC BGL file has been updated. Please download the new version on the site.

This AIRAC cover all the following Airports of te new system :

CYQB 4.00 QUEBEC CANADA
CYUL 4.00 MONTREAL CANADA
CYYZ 4.00 TORONTO CANADA
DTTA 4.00 TUNIS TUNISIA
EBBR 4.00 BRUSSELS BELGIUM
EDDB 4.00 BERLIN GERMANY FSX STOCK AIRPORT
EDDB 4.00 BERLIN GERMANY SPECIAL FREEWARE VERSION
EDDF 4.00 FRANKFURT GERMANY
EDDF 4.00 FRANKFURT GERMANY Aerosoft version
EDDH 4.00 HANBURG GERMANY
EDDM 4.00 MUNCHEN GERMANY
EFHK 4.00 HELSINKI FINLAND
EGGL 4.00 GUERNESEY UNITED KINGDOM
EGJJ 4.00 JERSEY UNITED KINGDOM
EGLL 4.00 LONDON HEATHROW UNITED KINGDOM
EHAM 4.00 AMSTERDAM SCHIPHOL NETHERLANDS
EIDW 4.00 DUBLIN IRELAND
EYVI 4.00 VILNIUS LITHUANIA
LIML 4.00 MILANO Linate ITALIA
LFPG 4.00 PARIS CHARLES DE GAULLE FRANCE
GCRR 4.00 LANZAROTTE SPANIA
LSZB 4.00 BELP BERN SWITZERLAND


Sorry for the delay of the translation of the airports.....


I search somebody to translate the SID/STAR/Approaches user manual that I have wrote in french to english.....


François

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by stewamar » 03 Oct 2014, 10:39

G'day Francois,
I have just joined this forum as I have the same interest in creating nav data files that reflect real world charts and have not been developed or supported in the paid database providers (eg navigraph etc). My focus is Australian and New Zealand nav data files (I live in AU) and would love to contribute something to this group.
The issue I have is that the great links in the thread above will not load...the request simply times out. Is this a function of my new member status??

I look forward to your reply with great interest.

Regards, Martin YBLT

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Post by fdd_fr » 05 Oct 2014, 11:41

Hello Martin,

Welcome to the group

All files and information are now on this website : FreenavDbGroup.com

The actual French version of the Airport creation tools kits can be downloaded by this link : http://freenavdbgroup.com/download/Tool ... p%20V4.zip

The issue, is that I havn't translate in english all the website for the moment. And for create airports, it exists a tools pack, that you can download on the Freenav website. But in this pack ,the manual to explain how create airports files is in French for the moment. I am working on a english version that is near to be completed (I hope in one week).

If your interest is high, you can use for the moment the french manual and use Google translate.

The tools packs include a EXCEL file that is used to have a form to create airports file. If you give me your mail by MP, I will send you the english version of this EXCEL form.

So, In the previous verison of the Database, we realized some Australian and New Zealand airports (YMML, YBBN, NZQN, NZAA, NZCH, NZDN, NZWN).
These airpots requires to be updated in Version 4 (by add the FSX missing waypoints in the new Freenav AIRAC, and check errors and change the altitude of the last waypoint (the runway threshold) of each approach.
But update an airport in more difficult than create a new airport.

I recommend to create new airport, it is more simple.

If you can wait one week, I think that the english version of the creation book will be completed and I will upload on the website the complete english tools kit to create airports.

And for all the official members of the group, we have access to a complete world waypoint database at the date of today, so with this database, this is very easy to add missing waypoint to FSX and create airports file. But I can't give free access to this database (it is reserved to serious Freenav members), because his author doesn't want that this database is in free access and I want respect his request.

François

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Post by stewamar » 06 Oct 2014, 09:23

G'day François,
thank you for the very detailed reply!! I did find the French version of the manual and realised the old database was being phased out, hence the links not working.

I was so interested in the manual that I have already started the translation on the weekend using Google Translate which is very effective. I am keen to get into this SID STAR development as mentioned in my original post reply.

I sought out this forum to understand how to write SIDS and STARS using the code in the Aerosoft Airbus series of planes for FSX(ARINC 434 I believe) and scanning the French versions of the spreadsheet it looks very much like the code in the nav files from the Airbus A318/319 which I have downloaded from my Navigraph login.

There is a question I would like answered if you can please. I want to be able to improve and add to these nav files from Navigraph and they appear to be written using most of the ARINC 434 code. Some of my regions airports are lacking in detail....this is why I want to improve these files. Does the system you brilliantly manage work for these Airbus files? Is your gauge a "stand alone" display that I can check my newly created SIDS/STARS or does it need to be added to an FSX plane?

I will send a PM to you with my email for the English spread sheet please.

Keep up the great work!!

Martin YBLT

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Post by fdd_fr » 06 Oct 2014, 18:02

Hi Martin,

I havn't the Aerosoft Airbus, but I suppose that, like all payware, that it use official AIRAC from navigraph or Jeppenssen. And its FMC is not an XML gauge, but a real software written in C++ language. It is independant of the FSX GPS and FSX navaids database.

My project is totaly written in XML and use the FSX GPS engine. My FMC can't read real AIRAC file and I don't know the file format used for the real AIRAC.

My graal is to do a totally freeware system. THis is the reason why I have created my own data file format. Our airport database will not never equal to a real AIRAC and a PMDG FMC. But it is free and very easy to use, because I have created a simply interface.

FD-FMC can't added easily to any FSX aircraft, because all the VNAV code must be adapted to the dynamic behavior of the aircraft. FOr the moment, I finish to develop the project on the Project Airbus A320, and when all will be ok, I will adapt FD-FMC to the others Project Airbus aircraft.

I will send to you a PM with the link to download the toolkit in english, to create SID/STAR/Approaches files, but the manual is not totally translated in english.

I think that I have one or two weeks to complete the english version of this manual, except if somebody decide to help me to translate from french to english.

I have posted this request several times , but nobody answered........ :@

This the same problem for the aicraft; It is ready and FMC works perfectly, but I am wrinting the user manual and I find nobody to help me to translate in english.

Francois

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Post by stewamar » 06 Oct 2014, 19:59

G'day Francois, I will certainly email my attempt at the translation as I am already part way through this. I will send you a Word document with text only (without the good pictures) as soon as I can. Please send a PM with an email address if that is appropriate.
Thank you for your clear explanation of your system. Sounds like a worthy project and some fun as well!
Regards, Martin.

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Post by fdd_fr » 10 Oct 2014, 14:17

many THanks Martin !

My mail is fdd_fr at yahoo.fr

Francois

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by stewamar » 10 Oct 2014, 21:45

No problem, up to page 18 at this stage and doing some everyday.

Regards, Martin

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by ricardo404 » 15 Oct 2014, 02:56

françois gave all correct one in the configuration of windows gave to everything ok more I still you in quela doubt only look at: later that I adjusted the point. e the comma, gave certain I there caught what I already had made in xls I erased the columns unnecessary I saved in csv and I appeared correct for comma sid_index I gave certain therefore I I tested in fd-fmc and there appeared the name of sid and the such more sid_data when I clicko in one of sid does not appear nothing airways take-off speed nothing I I wanted to take off one doubts with you for this I I go sample I eat was later that I saved in way csv I look at ve for you if has some wrong thing:

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05,CALVO 1A,055,600,1000,2000,5000,5000,230,3,1,U,SB,SBVT,BUVIM,-20.1725,-40.37555555555556,2,U,SB,SBVT,DAKIN,-20.009444444444444,-40.37555555555556,3,U,SB,SBVT,CALVO,-18.436944444444446,-39.020833333333336,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
05,GIDOD 1A,055,600,1000,2000,5000,5000,230,3,1,U,SB,SBVT,BUVIM,-20.1725,-40.37555555555556,2,U,SB,SBVT,DADOX,-20.066666666666666,-40.062777777777775,3,U,SB,SBVT,GIDOD,-19.628333333333334,-40.043055555555554,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
05,KITKAT 1A,055,600,1000,2000,5000,5000,230,3,1,U,SB,SBVT,BUVIM,-20.1725,-40.37555555555556,2,U,SB,SBVT,DADOX,-20.066666666666666,-40.062777777777775,3,U,SB,SBVT,KITKAT,-19.866388888888892,-39.544444444444444,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
05,LIVAM 1A,055,600,1000,2000,5000,5000,230,3,1,U,SB,SBVT,BUVIM,-20.1725,-40.37555555555556,2,U,SB,SBVT,DADOX,-20.066666666666666,-40.062777777777775,3,U,SB,SBVT,LIVAM,-19.529444444444444,-39.32944444444445,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
05,MINIG 1A,055,600,1000,2000,5000,5000,230,3,1,U,SB,SBVT,BUVIM,-20.1725,-40.37555555555556,2,U,SB,SBVT,DADOX,-20.066666666666666,-40.062777777777775,3,U,SB,SBVT,MINIG,-19.1375,-39.10888888888889,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
05,NIKSU 1A,055,600,1000,2000,5000,5000,230,3,1,U,SB,SBVT,BUVIM,-20.1725,-40.37555555555556,2,U,SB,SBVT,DAKIN,-20.006666666666668,-40.37555555555556,3,U,SB,SBVT,NIKSU,-19.93027777777778,-42.55083333333334,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
05,NISNU 1A,055,600,1000,2000,5000,5000,230,3,1,U,SB,SBVT,BUVIM,-20.1725,-40.37555555555556,2,U,SB,SBVT,DAKIN,-20.006666666666668,-40.37555555555556,3,U,SB,SBVT,NISNU,-19.61916666666667,-40.04055555555556,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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SID data - ICAO - nom de l'aéroport - ville - (état) - pays,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Based on …..  AIP charts Month/year,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Requires FreenavAIRAC_mmjjaaaa  or update file : Go to http://freenavdbgroup.com,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
© votre nom - FreeNav DB Group,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I was in I doubt this of comma in such a way

fdd_fr
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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 19 Oct 2014, 15:34

Hi Ricardo,

Before save your Excel sheet in CSV format, take the longest SID line (for example, you have 7 waypoints maximum on all your SID) and delete from the 8th waypoints all EXCEL columns. That's limits the number of commas to delete after.

Once you have save you SID_data.csv file, you must open it with Notepad++ to delete all commas in excesses.

Indeed, each SID line must be end by 2 commas, if the last waypoint is a "offcial" waypoint and 0 commas if the last waypoint is a User waypoint with latitude and longitude value.

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08,UNKEN 1J,80,800,2000,2000,11000,4,190,5,1,W,LO,LOWI,WI003,,,2,N,LO,,AB,,,3,W,LO,LOWI,LOC12,,,4,N,LO,,RTT,,,5,W,ED,,UNKEN,,
08,RTT 1W,80,800,2000,2000,11000,4,190,4,1,W,LO,LOWI,WI003,,,2,N,LO,,AB,,,3,W,LO,LOWI,LOC12,,,4,N,LO,,RTT,,
08,RASTA 3J,80,800,2000,2000,11000,4,190,5,1,W,LO,LOWI,WI003,,,2,N,LO,,AB,,,3,W,LO,LOWI,LOC12,,,4,N,LO,,RTT,,,5,W,LO,,RASTA,,
08,OBEDI 2J,80,800,2000,2000,11000,4,190,5,1,W,LO,LOWI,WI003,,,2,N,LO,,AB,,,3,W,LO,LOWI,LOC12,,,4,N,LO,,RTT,,,5,W,LO,,OBEDI,,
08,RTT 2J,80,800,2000,2000,11000,6,190,6,1,W,LO,LOWI,WI003,,,2,N,LO,,AB,,,3,W,LO,LOWI,OEJ,,,4,W,LO,LOWI,D156A,,,5,U,,,R226N,47.486584,12.031745,6,N,LO,,RTT,,
08,ADILO 1J,80,800,2000,2000,11000,4,190,5,1,W,LO,LOWI,WI003,,,2,N,LO,,AB,,,3,W,LO,LOWI,OEJ,,,4,N,LO,,INN,,,5,W,LO,,ADILO,,
08,KPT 1Z,80,800,2000,2000,11500,3,190,5,1,W,LO,LOWI,WI003,,,2,N,LO,,AB,,,3,N,LO,,INN,,,4,W,LO,LOWI,D152V,,,5,V,ED,,KPT,,
08,KOGOL 2J,80,800,2000,2000,11000,4,190,5,1,W,LO,LOWI,WI003,,,2,N,LO,,AB,,,3,W,LO,LOWI,LOC12,,,4,N,LO,,RTT,,,5,W,ED,,KOGOL,,
26,UNKEN 1H,260,300,2000,2000,11000,4,185,6,1,W,LO,,NORTO,,,2,U,,,INN26,47.2286614,11.25377655,3,N,LO,,AB,,,4,W,LO,LOWI,LOC12,,,5,N,LO,,RTT,,,6,W,ED,,UNKEN,,
26,RTT 1X,260,300,2000,2000,11000,6,190,9,1,W,LO,LOWI,WI005,,,2,W,LO,LOWI,WI006,,,3,W,LO,LOWI,WI007,,,4,W,LO,LOWI,WI008,,,5,W,LO,LOWI,WI006,,,6,W,LO,LOWI,WI005,,,7,W,LO,LOWI,WI003,,,8,W,LO,LOWI,WI002,,,9,N,LO,,RTT,,
26,RTT 1Y,260,300,2000,2000,11000,4,185,5,1,W,LO,,NORTO,,,2,U,,,INN26,47.2286614,11.25377655,3,N,LO,,AB,,,4,W,LO,LOWI,LOC12,,,5,N,LO,,RTT,,
26,RTT 2H,260,300,2000,2000,11000,7,185,7,1,W,LO,,NORTO,,,2,U,,,INN26,47.2286614,11.25377655,3,N,LO,,AB,,,4,W,LO,LOWI,OEJ,,,5,W,LO,LOWI,D156A,,,6,U,,,R226N,47.486584,12.031745,7,N,LO,,RTT,,
26,RASTA 3H,260,300,2000,2000,11000,3,185,6,1,W,LO,,NORTO,,,2,U,,,INN26,47.2286614,11.25377655,3,N,LO,,AB,,,4,W,LO,LOWI,LOC12,,,5,N,LO,,RTT,,,6,W,LO,,RASTA,,
26,OBEDI 2H,260,300,2000,2000,11000,3,185,6,1,W,LO,,NORTO,,,2,U,,,INN26,47.2286614,11.25377655,3,N,LO,,AB,,,4,W,LO,LOWI,LOC12,,,5,N,LO,,RTT,,,6,W,LO,,OBEDI,,
26,ADILO 1H,260,300,2000,2000,11000,3,185,6,1,W,LO,,NORTO,,,2,U,,,INN26,47.2286614,11.25377655,3,N,LO,,AB,,,4,W,LO,LOWI,OEJ,,,5,N,LO,,INN,,,6,W,LO,,ADILO,,
26,KOGOL 2H,260,300,2000,2000,11000,7,185,8,1,W,LO,,NORTO,,,2,U,,,INN26,47.2286614,11.25377655,3,N,LO,,AB,,,4,W,LO,LOWI,OEJ,,,5,W,LO,LOWI,D156A,,,6,U,,,R226N,47.486584,12.031745,7,N,LO,,RTT,,,8,W,ED,,KOGOL,,

I have completed the english version of the manual to create airprot files, but my english is very bad, and Martin must check and correct my file.

If you want download the temporary manual in english, you can donwload here : http://freenavdbgroup.com/Temp/Freenav% ... t%20V4.zip

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 19 Oct 2014, 15:47

4 new airports realized by jean-pierre Varnier :
- LFMT - Montpellier
- LFRD - DINARD Saint-Malo
- LFRH - Lorient Lann Bihoué
- LFRG - Deauville Normandie

And one updated airport updated by Georges : LIMF - Turino Caselle.

AIRAC file has been updated for these new airports; remember to download it and delete the previous version in your \Addon Scenery\Scenery\ folder.

French workbook has been updated and I have completed the translation in english of this workbook; But like my english is very bad, I hope that Martin accept to correct my language errors. So, maybe the definitive english version will be available in few days.


I have updated the web site http://www.freenavdbgroup.com

Note : Many thanks to Hervé Sors for his help. Active members of Freenavdbgroup will be acces to a waypoint database updated from 2014, so this will do the work very easy (because waypoints coordinates of missing waypoints will be in this database and we will have just to do copy and paste in our ARAC file). But this databse will be reserved to active members, according the request of Hervé.

So, from today, you can send me your airport file or xml file to transform in temporary BGL on the following email adress :
airport at freenavdbgroup.com

All personal questions can be sent on this adress : francois.dore at freenavdbgroup.com

Now, I am workibng hard on the aircraft user manual, because the FMC is completed (beta 0.77N works well) and I hope publish the aircraft after the end of 2014.

regards

françois

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 20 Oct 2014, 16:40

Yesterday, there were errors in LIML and LIMF; STAR index files between these 2 airports was inverted..

I have uploaded the right versions of these 2 airports tonight (and also the complete pack) , so excuse me for this mistake.

sorry

Francois

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 26 Oct 2014, 21:19

Hi,

2 new airports inthe database :

LFRK - CAEN Carpiquet - FRANCE
KJAC - Jackson Hole - USA - Wyoming (compatible with FTX/ORBX scenery Central rocky mountains and Jackson Hole airport scenery.


AIRAC has been updated

All files and information are now on this website : FreenavDbGroup.com


Jackson hole is a difficult high altitude airport, in a valley, in Grand Teton National Park, with surrounding high mountains. Many fog and blizzard during Winter and the FTX scenery of the Airport is very beautiful and realisitc (I was gone in this airport 2 years ago).

Caution : Read the text file in the FMC, because some runway 01 approaches requires an holding pattern.

There is also the famous "teardrop" procedure in some approaches:
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Good flight

Francois

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 18 Nov 2014, 20:53

Hi,

The english version of the tools kit to create aiport Data files for FD-FMC is now avalaible.

Many thanks to Martin Stewart, Who realized th french to english translation !

Many thanks.


You can download this tools kit here : http://freenavdbgroup.com/?page_id=397

Francois

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 19 Nov 2014, 19:37

You can download 4 new airports and the new AIRAC file (v11192014) on the FreeNavdbgroup Web site

List of airports completed and covered by the AIRAC 11-19-2014

- CYQB 4.00 QUEBEC CANADA
- CYUL 4.00 MONTREAL CANADA
- CYYZ 4.00 TORONTO CANADA
- DTTA 4.00 TUNIS TUNISIA
- EBBR 4.00 BRUSSELS BELGIUM
- EDDB 4.00 BERLIN GERMANY FSX STOCK AIRPORT
- EDDB 4.00 BERLIN GERMANY SPECIAL FREEWARE VERSION
- EDDF 4.00 FRANKFURT GERMANY
- EDDF 4.00 FRANKFURT GERMANY Aerosoft version
- EDDH 4.00 HANBURG GERMANY
- EDDM 4.00 MUNCHEN GERMANY
- EDDW 4.00 BREMEN GERMANY
- EFHK 4.00 HELSINKI FINLAND
- EGCC 4.00 MANCHESTER UNITED KINGDOM
- EGGL 4.00 GUERNESEY UNITED KINGDOM
- EGJJ 4.00 JERSEY UNITED KINGDOM
- EGLL 4.00 LONDON HEATHROW UNITED KINGDOM
- EHAM 4.00 AMSTERDAM SCHIPHOL NETHERLANDS
- EIDW 4.00 DUBLIN INTL IRELAND
- ENGM 4.00 OSLO Gardermoen NORWAY
- ESSA 4.00 STOCKHOLM ARLANDA SWEDEN
- EYVI 4.00 VILNIUS LITHUANIA
- GCRR 4.00 LANZAROTTE CANARY ISLANDS SPAIN
- KASE 4.00 ASPEN CO/SARDY USA - Colorado
- KBOI 4.00 BOISE USA - Idaho
- KJAC 4.00 JACKSON HOLE USA - Wyoming
- KLAS 4.00 LAS VEGAS USA - Nevada
- KLAX 4.00 LOS ANGELES USA - California
- KMSO 4.00 MISSOULA INTL USA - Montana
- KPDX 4.00 PORTLAND USA - Oregon
- LEZL 4.01 SEVILLE SPAIN
- LFBD 4.00 BORDEAUX MERIGNAC FRANCE
- LFBO 4.00 TOULOUSE BLGNAC FRANCE
- LFBP 4.00 PAU PYRENEES FRANCE
- LFBT 4.00 TARBES LOURDES PYRENEES FRANCE
- LFBZ 4.00 BIARRITZ BAYONNE ANGLET FRANCE
- LFLS 4.00 GRENOBLE Saint-Geoirs FRANCE
- LFLX 4.00 CHATEAUROUX DEOLS FRANCE
- LFMN 4.00 NICE COTE D'AZUR FRANCE
- LFMP 4.00 PERPIGNAN RIVESALTES FRANCE
- LFMT 4.01 MONTPELLIER MEDITERRANEE FRANCE
- LFPG 4.00 PARIS CHARLES DE GAULLE FRANCE
- LFRD 4.00 DINAN PERTUIT SAINT-MALO FRANCE
- LFRG 4.00 DEAUVILLE NORMANDIE FRANCE
- LFRH 4.00 LORIENT LANN BIHOUE FRANCE
- LFRK 4.00 CAEN CARPIQUET FRANCE
- LFRS 4.00 NANTES Atlantique FRANCE
- LFST 4.00 STRASBOURG ENTZHEIM FRANCE
- LGAV 4.00 ATHENS GREECE
- LIMF 4.00 TORINO CASELLE ITALY
- LIML 4.00 MILANO LINATE ITALY
- LOWI 4.00 INNSBRUCK AUSTRIA
- LSZB 4.00 BELP SWITZERLAND

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by The320Pilot » 22 Nov 2014, 23:51

When creating SIDs and STARs for the FD-FMC, is it possible to pass twice over the same waypoint/VOR/NDB?

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 23 Nov 2014, 08:40

It is possible, but you must have at least a waypoint between the 2 same waypoints, but it some case, the GPS jump directly to the second waypoint.

The better solution is to avoid this state and to create a user (type "U', at the same location) waypoint for the second waypoint that you want use.

Francois

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by The320Pilot » 23 Nov 2014, 14:11

Ok, thanks

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 23 Nov 2014, 18:05

Your welcome


4 new airports can be downloaded on the Freenav website : http://freenavdbgroup.com/?p=430

- LFRQ Quimper Plougaffan France(realized by Jean-pierre Varnier)
- LFTH Hyeres Le Palyvestre France (realized by Jean-Pierre Varnier)
- MMMX - Mexico City Benito Juarez Intl - Mexico (a very high altitude airport : 7316 feet ! )
- PAJN - Juneau USA Alaska (a very difficult airport for good pilots, because final approach is manual with a tight turn before land )

Update of the AIRAC bgl file (version 11222014 )

Update of the panel in version 0.77p, which fix some minor bugs (see the aircraft project thread).

Francois

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