SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

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Post by fdd_fr » 19 Feb 2013, 13:29

Good news !

Winodws is innocent ! Sorry bilou !

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Post by fdd_fr » 19 Feb 2013, 13:57

I have updated the first post.

Now , 12 airports are completed and a dozen are under construction.

In one week, all the french airport will be completed.

The STAR process (gauge code and file format) are in current test. I hope to be ready for the Fist STAR for the end of the week.

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Post by fdd_fr » 20 Feb 2013, 16:58

5 new airports completed :

- KBWI
- KHIO
- LFKC
- LFRH
- LFBT

See firt post to download.

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Post by fdd_fr » 24 Feb 2013, 03:45

Four new airports :

- LFRQ - Quimper plugaffan Jean-pierre
- LFBZ - Biarritz Bayonne - jean-pierre
- LFBP - Pau Pyrennées Patapon
- KMSO - Missoula - Montana - FCerven

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Post by fdd_fr » 24 Feb 2013, 17:35

Great day : the new panel 0.48 manage STAR. You can download it on the Aircraft Topic.

I have updated the completed airport, and all that are in RED color, have SID and STAR (see first topic to download)

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Post by fdd_fr » 25 Feb 2013, 20:13

LFML , Marseille Provence has been SID updated and fixed, and has all STAR now.

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Post by fdd_fr » 03 Mar 2013, 22:29

New update For LFML ( SID added)

-Now that I have undestood how works american charts, I have re-write the STAR of KPDX, that are now dedicated to runways, so

- KPDX has been updated


Et new big airport, with SID and STAR :

- London Heathrow EGLL.

The new paenl will be ready in 2 or 3 days and I will be manage the holding patterns of the STAR and the limieted speed.

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Post by fdd_fr » 04 Mar 2013, 23:30

4 new american airports from Fcerven (SID only for the moment)
- KBOI
-KCOE
- KCLM
- KBLI

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Post by fdd_fr » 11 Mar 2013, 21:44

SID and STAR for LFMN - Nice Cote d'azur - France.

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Post by fdd_fr » 17 Mar 2013, 12:21

KSLC Slat lake City Intl has now his 42 STAR

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Post by fdd_fr » 18 Mar 2013, 06:02

STAR data of LFBD , Bordeaux merignac had errors. I have fixed them and upload the new version.

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Post by fdd_fr » 19 Mar 2013, 09:34

SID and STAR of EHAM Amsterdam Schiphol are online.

If you use the addon scenery "Mega Airport" fom Aerosoft, you must update a file in the panel, because Aerosoft has added helipads as runways, and there is no enough place in the airport information page to display reals runways.

So I have added a filter to display only the runways that have a longer of 4000ft minimum.

Here is the link to download the A320_FMS_main.xml file, if you use Mega Airport SCHIPHOL :
update of the FMS main file for SCHIPHOL Mega Airport d'aerosoft

You must copy this file in each \panel\A320_FMS\ folder (CFM and IAE)

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Post by fdd_fr » 21 Mar 2013, 20:43

New Airport : LSGG Geneva Cointrin Switzerland with SID and STAR available to download. the majority of the STAR permit to land directly, without specific approach.

New version of LFMN - Nice cote d'azur, fixed a bug in a STAR.

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Post by fdd_fr » 24 Mar 2013, 06:26

New airports are online :


Germany :
EDDS - Stuttgart Airport - Stuttgart - Germany SID by platudis
EDDB - Berlin Schönefeld Airport - Berlin - Germany SID by platudis
EDDM - Munich Airport - Munich - Germany SID by Platudis


LEMD - Madrid Barajas - Spain - SiD by jean-pierre Varnier (full compatible with Aerosoft addon)

LFSB - Bale/Mulhouse France/switzerland has been updated by Jean-michel Rapp : Now airport has STAR


I will post in few hours , a complete updated packehge of the aircraft.

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Post by fdd_fr » 24 Mar 2013, 17:44

For those who have undestand the SID construction, I have prepared a kit to build STAR :


Kit and sample to create STAR

This kit contains a manual in HTM, and a sample with EHAM SCHIPHOL, with the STAR and runway approach charts.

Buid STAR is more complex than build SID, because you must examine the runways approachs files, to know for which runways the STAR has approachs .

Begin by european STAR, because US STAR are very difficult .

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Post by fdd_fr » 25 Mar 2013, 18:42

LSGG - updated today by Francois Dore (STAR DJL 1N atltitude bugfixed )
EDDM - updated today by platudis
EDDS - updated today by platudis
EDDB - updated today by platudis


New airport SID :

- EDDH - Hamburg - Germany, by platudis

See first post of the topic

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Post by fdd_fr » 27 Mar 2013, 07:01

New airports :

EDDF - Frankfurt - Germany by Platudis (SID only)
EDDT - Berlin Tegel Airport - Germany by platudis (SID only)

LPPT - LISBON - Portugal - by Jean-pierre Varnier (SID only)

EGPF - Glasgow - United Kingdom - by francois Dore (SID & STAR) : important : require panel 0.54 or higher (see aircraft topic)




Updates :
EDDH - Hamburg - Germany by platudis (revison 2)

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by GaryG » 27 Mar 2013, 08:24

Nice job Francois !

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Post by fdd_fr » 27 Mar 2013, 09:08

Thanks gary,
And now, I need a week of tranquility to write the approach code and especially DME-arc that I think that will be a puzzle.


I think I'll still lose some hair.

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Post by fdd_fr » 30 Mar 2013, 07:55

2 new Airports SID :

EGJJ - Jersey - UK by Jean-pierre varnier
EGJB - Guernesey - UK by Jean-pierre varnier

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Post by fdd_fr » 01 Apr 2013, 04:51

Platudis has completed EDDK Cologne/Bonn Airport - Cologne - Germany SIDs

I am finishing the approach code of the gauge, with DME arc management.

I hope to post to day the updated panel, with the Approaches of KLAS, Las Vegas.

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Post by fdd_fr » 04 Apr 2013, 20:34

02 new airports and 1 airport bug fixed :

New airports:

EDDL - Düsseldorf International Airport - Germany by platudis (SId)
LFBF - Aix les Bains - France by Michel Rapp (SID and STAR)

Platudis has corrected EDDF - Frankfurt - Germany today.

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Post by fdd_fr » 07 Apr 2013, 17:44

New panel (Beta 0.55) has been posted in the A320 Thread; This new panel offers the Approach management by the FMS until landing.

I have created the approaches data for 2 Airports :

- KLAS
- EHAM

The fist page of the thead has been updated.

Airports that have SID, STAR and APPROACHES are green.

Francois

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Post by fdd_fr » 09 Apr 2013, 16:44

New airport :

- LFST - Strasbourg Entzheim - Strasbourg - France by jean-pierre Varnier : with SID and STAR


- LFML - Marseille Porvence - France - updated by francois Dore : Now with SID, STAR and APPROACHES.

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Post by fdd_fr » 11 Apr 2013, 15:42

LFRD updated by Jean-pierre Varnier (STAR added)

New airport : LFLL - Lyon Saint-Exupery - France , by Michel Rapp, with SID and STAR.

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Post by fdd_fr » 14 Apr 2013, 20:06

4 Airports updated :

- LFBD - Bordeaux Merignac - FRANCE
- KSLC - Salt lake City - USA

Some KSLC SID data fixed and Approaches added for the 2 airports, with the specificity of each STAR have Approach for all runways. (36 approaches for KSLC ! )



STAR added on :
- EGJJ - Jersey - United Kingdom : STAR added
- EGJB - Guernesey - United Kingdom : STAR added

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by Rednacks » 21 Apr 2013, 14:11

Hi François,
What if the airport only have Approaches and no STARs ? And is there a toolkit to create approaches ?

Thank you,
Rednacks

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Post by fdd_fr » 21 Apr 2013, 15:45

Hi Rednacks,

Some airports have no STAR : MISSOULA (KMSO) for example, because only certified pilots can land at Missoula (Dangerous airport in a valley).

Large airports, like PARIS Charles De Gaulle - LFPG have STAR, but no instrument apporach between the end of the STARs and the Final approachs, because, there is always a radar vectoring from ATC.

There is a toolkit to create SID, STAR and Approaches files based on an EXCEL file : http://www.db-online.fr/francois/SID-ST ... sample.zip

But, since I have decide to add the front entrance to holding pattern function, this toolkit doesn't describe this function. But this only for STAR and approches.

I must complete my gauge code for this function and I will publish a new EXCEL file. The only columns which the value can change is the "Turn" Columns.

Let me 2 or 3 days and I will update this toolkit.

This is the last part of my FMS gauge and the work will be completed, after 10 months !


Francois

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Post by fdd_fr » 21 Apr 2013, 16:39

Our first african airport : DTTA - Tunis - Carthage Airport : SID realized by Skander Kamoun

Thanks

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Post by fdd_fr » 22 Apr 2013, 14:31

Hi,

I have completed the xml code of the FMS for the front entrance in holding patterns in STAR and APPROACHS files.

Here is some picture to explain how code in the EXCEL file the holding pattern/


Left Holding pattern :
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Right Holding pattern :
Image


A sample with a front entrance in a left holding pattern :
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Here is the code in the EXCEL file with the sample above :
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With this sfunction, the FMS will guide the aircraft according the ICAO procedure for this type of holding pattern entrance and the result will be :
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I will prepare a tutorial with a new EXCEL file to enter the data.

The front entrance for holding pattern (code 3 & 4 for the "Turn" Variable) will be compatbile with the panel beta 0.57 that I will post tomorrow or wenesday.

I will update all the existing STAR and approachs of hte actual database with this new function.

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Post by fdd_fr » 24 Apr 2013, 19:40

panel 0.57 with the new front entrance procedure is online : see the aircraft topic.


6 airports updated today with this new STAR or Approach procedure :

- LFRD
- EGjB
- EGJJ
- KSLC
- EHAM
- LEMD

Caution : This airports require now panel 0.57 or later.

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by Airbus Fan » 25 Apr 2013, 16:07

Hi,

I have a request. When You will have a time, could You create a STAR for KSFO (San Francisco Intl) ?

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Post by fdd_fr » 26 Apr 2013, 02:55

I have downloaded SFO charts. I will write the SID/STAR/APPROACH of SFO this weekend.

And I will write the approachs of Portland KPDX also.

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Post by Airbus Fan » 26 Apr 2013, 13:56

Okay, thank You. :)

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Post by fdd_fr » 28 Apr 2013, 13:14

New airport :

LIRF - Fiumicino - Roma - Italy with all : 101 SID, 21 STAR, 33 approachs, with DME-ARC and some front entrance in holding patterns : Requires panel 0.57 or higher.

I am Wrinting now KSFO - San francisco, and a user manual to write the STAR and Approachs files.

Requires the PLAN-G software ( a top best software, freeware !! )

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 28 Apr 2013, 19:58

I have began to write a manual in french to explain about how create STARs and Approachs files, and DME arc, . I will try to translate in english if some people are interesting But only if people are interested, because that's give many works.
To create these files, you need 3 softwares only :
- EXCEL
- PLAN-G
- text editor (as Notepad++, the best)



A sample in french (use google translation) :

En attendant la redaction du mode d'emploi complet, voici une petite explication sur comment coder dans les fichiers d'approches un ARC DME.


Petit avant propos :
Je rappel que les fichiers STAR se présentent comme les fichiers SID (un fichier d'index et un fichier de données), par contres, les fichier d'approches sont diggerents. Ils sont uniques (pas d'index et leurs nom est toujours le nom de l'IAF de l' approche (c'est à dire le dernier point d'une STAR dans la majoirté des cas).

Par exemple, dansles 2 cas suivant, les fichiers d'approches sont :
- TAQ.csv
- CMP.csv

Car TAQ et CMP sont 2 IAF de LIRF, et peuvent desservir toutesles pistes, via un systeme de transition entre IAF.



Voici l'exemple de LIRF qui présente les 2 cas de figure les plus courant pour effectuer un ARC DME:
- Entrée "frontale"
- entrée "Tangentielle"

Tout d'abord, officielement, c'est le NDB "OST" qui sert de point de référence pour l'ARC. Mais pour le moment, je n'arrive pas à codé en XML la commande radio des frequences en kilohetz, donc je suis obligé d'uitliser que des VOR comme référence d'ARC-DME (car j'arrive à transcoder les nombre 64bits en codage MHZ) ; Une chance, le NDB de rome est accompagné d'un VOR, donc notre VOR de Référence sera le VOR "OST".


Voici la carte officiel d'approche de la piste 07 de LIRF :
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On peut arriver par le VOR TAQ, au nord, et dans ce cas l'entrée se fait face au vor OST, entrainant un virage à 90° sur la droite, ou on peut arriver par le VOR "CMP", à l'est, et dans ce cas, arrivée est tangentielle, beaucoup plus facile.


Prenons le premier cas, par le VOR TAQ.


En premier, il faut prendre PLAN-G, et afficher le cercle des 10NM de l'ARC par rapport au VOR de référence (le trait jaune), ensuite, en trave la radiale de ce vor vers le chemin par ou on arrive :
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Le trait noir est le tracé du plan de vol "brut" du GPS, sans les interprétationss du FMS.
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POurl'arrivée frontale, il nous faut au moins 3 waypoints :
- 1 à environ 2 Nm 'cela dépend de la vitesse d'arrivée del'avion) du cercle de l'ARC : une chance, nous avons un d'existant : D318L
- un deuxime waypoint a environ 2 Nm au moins d ela radial, sur le cercle, du coté ou l'on doit tourner. Ces 2 waypoints vont parmettre à l'avion de d'effectuer son virage initial. Ici, je l'appelerai "ARC10"
- un troisième waypoint, proche de la fin de l'ARC, et c'est lui qui va contenir les données de l'ARC-DME dansle tableau EXCEL. Je l'appelerai "D258", car il se trouve sur la radiale 258 du VOR OST.

Voici ce que cela donne au final :
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Voici ce que cela donne au niveau codage de donnée dansl e tableau EXCEL :
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Notez la colonne "Hold pattern" = 3 pour un ARC
TURN = 1 car le virage est à gauche durant l'arc
Ensuite la frequence du VOR OST 114.90 et son nom
et pour finir, la distance de l'ARC : 10NM


Comme vous pouvez le voir, la trajectoire n'est pas parfaite, maisla tolérance dans un ARC DME est de 1 NM et là, je suis à 0.7Nm max. La trajectoire pourrait être améliorer en approchant du cercle des 10nm,le premier waypoint (créer un waypoint à la place de D318L), car il est un peu éloigné (FSX anticipe l'arrivée sur les waypoints).

J'ai créé Les dernier wayipints, IF07 et FAF07, car il en faut un pour sortir de l'ARC (IF07), et comme l'arrivée sur la piste 07 est de type RNAV sans ILS, il me faut un FAF pour avoir l'altitude de départ du plan de descente , conformémement à la carte (ici, le FAF est à 6Nm de la piste, et une altitude 2000.
Car j'ai codé un "semblant" de plan de descente , proche des 3° standard, maispour cela, il faut bien positionner le FAF.
J'amélirerai le code XML de la pente de descente.



Notez bien que les données de l'ARC sont codé avec le waypoint de fin de l'ARC !

Le deuxième cas est beaucoup plus simple : l'arrivée tangentielle :
Après le circuit d'attente de "CMP" :
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Comme l'avion va arriver en tangentant l'ARC, nous pouvons choisir un waypoint directement sur l'ARC, et ici nous avons un waypoint existant : D318J

Voici l'ARC completement accomplit par l'avion :
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L'arrivée tangentielle est a été beaucoup plus simple à codé en XML pour moi; Ici, la précision du suivi de l'ARC est inferieur à 0.2NM.
Le principe reste le même : un point d'entrée , mais situé sur l'ARC : D318J
un point de fin d'ARC, qui est le même : D258 et qui contient les données de l'ARC :

Codage dans EXCEL identique pour D258 :
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Voila le principe des ARC. Je vais tenté d'améliorer l'arrivée frontale, en déterminant les distance idéales des 2 waypoints initiaux.




Concernant les Circuit d'attente, LIRF m'a fait découvrir que mon code XML n'était pas parfait. en effet, les circuits d'attente de LIRF ne sont pas tout à fait dans l'axe des trajectoires d'arrivée sur les STAR et comme je me sers je ré-engage le mode NAV sur la "leg" retour, pour être sur de repasser par le waypoint de référence, sans être influencer par les vents, l'avion veut rejoindre le tracé du plan de vol en priorité, d'où un tracé qui n'est pas parfait.
Je vais réfléchir à un nouvel algorythme, mais ce type de circuit d'attente est rès minoritaire, (c'est la première fois que j'en vois, avec LIRF) et la déviation n'est pas trop méchante.


Promis, je finis de rédiger le mode d'emploi au plus ite, mais cela représente beaucoup d'heure de travail.

J'en ai profité pour améliorer le classeur de saisie pour les données SID/STAR/APPROCHES :
Classeur de Saisie EXCEL Version3.0f (FR)

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 01 May 2013, 06:27

New airport online : EYVI - Vilnius Intl - LITHUANIA with SID,STAR and APPROACHES.

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Post by fdd_fr » 02 May 2013, 17:12

Airport LFRH Lorient France updated. SID modified, STAR and approachs added . New procedure : DME ARC on STAR : Requires panel 0.58 posted today !



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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 06 May 2013, 19:45

3 airports updated toaday :

- LFSB
- LFLL
- LFLB

For these 3 airports, Appraochs have been added.

I have wroite a manual to create SID/STAR in french. Adrian Roebl is translating it in english.

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 13 May 2013, 19:45

New airport : Brussels national - Belgium, with SID/STAR & Approachs.

Next airport : PAKT Ketchikan International Airport for the FTX/ORBX lovers.

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 15 May 2013, 18:25

Hi,

I have made 2 errors in the files of EBBR, with the FLORA IAF, and the approachs from this IAF didn't works. (i have named the file FLORA.csv but the real name of the IAF is FLO, so the file must be called FLO.csv, and I have forgotten the 25L and 25R approachs from this IAF).

I have fixed the fileq and uploaded the new version of EBBR.

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 20 May 2013, 16:44

Hi acet0pgun,

You're welcome !

I have wrote a manual to create SID/STAR, but in french for the moment; Adrian Roebl is translating this manual in english. When It will be ready, I will post the link to download.

Canadian charts can be found on http://www.fltplan.com/AwMainToApproach ... CH&end=end but to access to canadian charts, you must create an account; It is free.

Canadian charts seam to be a little difficult to understand, but if you are motivated, I am sure that you will achieve perfectly this work.

the link to the provisional french manual (only for SID and STAR, not for Approachs at this moment and you can use goggle translation) to wait the Adrian job : http://www.db-online.fr/francois/SID-ST ... 0g(FR).zip

Here is a sample pack, with all files (XLS, CSV and Charts) of Brussels EBBR : http://www.db-online.fr/francois/SID-ST ... s/EBBR.zip

If you have quastions, I will answer with enjoy.

Francois




It can help you to understand how works the files

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 22 May 2013, 19:08

Hi,

Today,

LFRQ has been updated by STAR added
LFSB has been updated with approachs and with 2 versions : 1 standard version and 1 for a specific freeware addon of LFSB (see the readme file).


New website for Freenav DB group, with new download page, with country classification and possibility to translate the pages in several languages.

The new link is : Link to download airports from FreeNav DB Group Airport Database
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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 26 May 2013, 17:15

- LFRS has been updated : SID improved, and STAR added.

one new airport :

- EIDW Dublin Ireland, with SID, STAR and Approachs

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by Airbus Fan » 26 May 2013, 17:39

Thanks. :)

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 27 May 2013, 19:04

Hi,

Excuse me, but 5 EIDW SIDs had errors :
NEVRI 1A
SUROX 1A
ROTEV 1A
LIFFY 5A
DEXEN 1A

one waypoint was false. I have fixed the bugs; The new version is online.

The website has new presentation, with english version : Link to download airports from FreeNav DB Group Airport Database

At the end of the page, you have the link to download the full package of the 54 airports updated (may 27)

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 01 Jun 2013, 05:29

Hi,

I have updated LFMN - Nice Cote d'azur today, with appraochs now. If you like challenge, try the 22L/22R approachs ; No ILS, and full final manual landing with a final turn at less than 30 seconds of the runway.

Good for training !

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 02 Jun 2013, 18:11

Hi,


Excuse me, but the LFMN approachs that I have posted yesterday have errors in ILS 04L and ILS 04R from the NERAS IAF. So i just Have uploded an update version that fix these bugs.

The new version has the number 3.03.

Sorry.

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by Airbus Fan » 02 Jun 2013, 18:37

Hi, I tried RNAV to RWY 27L. It was a good test for my skills ( with 12 KTS of crosswind ).. Thanks.! :D

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Re: SID/STAR/APPROACH free Database Project

Post by fdd_fr » 04 Jun 2013, 18:20

Hi,


I have a solution to introduce speed constraint according a waypoint in a SID. The file format doesn't change. The realized airports will be compatible with this new function.

I will come back as soon as possible to more explanations.

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