Wilco A380v2 VC Merge with PA380

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SleepyWeltonBoy
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Wilco A380v2 VC Merge with PA380

Post by SleepyWeltonBoy » 08 Aug 2013, 11:59

I have successfully merged the Wilco A380v2 VC with the PA380 model.

Having flown a few approaches, I am experiencing problems with ILS autoland approaches at KSFO (San Francisco) on RW28R. The aircraft is set down ahead of the runway threshold and crashes. I repeated the ILS approach with the Wilco A380v2 by itself and all is well.

Is this something to do with the setting of the 'eyepoint' coordinates in the aircraft.cfg file for the placement of the VC, which affects how the glideslope is referenced to the aircraft model (and hence where the model is with respect to the ILS beam itself), in which case simple tweaking may correct this, or does anyone have similar experience of this merge and knows a few tricks to remedy the situation?

SleepyWeltonBoy
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Re: Wilco A380v2 VC Merge with PA380

Post by SleepyWeltonBoy » 15 Aug 2013, 20:04

Problem well and truly solved! It would appear that this is a known issue with FSX when the mesh resolution is set to less than 10m in the FSX settings, when flying approaches over water and a threshold (as the case for San Francisco's (KSFO) RW28R). If you set the mesh resolution to 10m or greater, there is no problem with the "merged" aircraft in question and an ILS autoland is more than possible for this approach.

I found the following link on the selfsame problem, albeit with PMDG aircraft (it seems to be the heavies which could suffer this problem). It looks as if some addon aircraft may suddenly jump from a few hundred feet to the ground on such approaches over water, effectively crashing in the process, before actually reaching the runway, if the mesh resolution is set too high (i.e. less than 10m).

The link is http://www.forum.avsim.net/topic/278...-touching-down

Happy landings in the meantime!

markm24
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Re: Wilco A380v2 VC Merge with PA380

Post by markm24 » 17 Aug 2013, 12:36

Hey Pal, can you give me the screenshots of your vc in your merge? I also want a wilco/pa380 merge but i only want to merge the wilco gauges to the new vc of pa380 [facked's vc version]. i want to keep the interior design of the original pa380 vc i dont want the wilco ones because its a trash only the gauges are good... hoping for a positive answer for this, Pal...

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Re: Wilco A380v2 VC Merge with PA380

Post by SleepyWeltonBoy » 19 Aug 2013, 21:20

I have downloaded and installed the rikoooo Airbus A380 which has a VC for FSX. Like yourself, I am inclined to think that the 3D Wilco cockpit has little to be desired, but the gauges do.

To this effect, I have tried replacing the rikoooo gauges with the Wilco ones and have had no luck so far (I am using Prepar3D). The Wilco gauges just simply will not install in the appropriate slots in the rikoooo VC panel. One further thing is that the virtual cockpit is dimmed significantly in Prepard3D with respect to FSX, to the extent that the gauges have to be lit to read them properly. So perhaps we are still waiting for a more acceptable VC for the A380 in FSX and Prepar3D.

Although cringe-worthy, the Wilco 2D cockpit isn't that bad and at least the 3D cockpit does look something like an A380, albeit of rather degraded quality. All I have done is to retain the exterior aircraft model for the Project Airbus A380 (which is quite excellent) but use the interior model for the Wilco A380v2. I have then simply used both the 2D and 3D panels from the Wilco A380v2, retaining the model and flight dynamics of the PA A380, but making necessary tweaks in the aircraft.cfg file to accommodate gauge-related issues with how the flap and slat extensions are defined for the PA model, based on the Wilco settings. The net result is that it does work and very well. A full flight with a flightplan is more than possible, using the Wilco flight management computer, with the merged model.

So for the time being at least something is useable that can be flown in FSX and Prepar3D and let's hope for better things in the future where the A380 is concerned (from Project Airbus, perhaps? That would be good!).

markm24
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Re: Wilco A380v2 VC Merge with PA380

Post by markm24 » 19 Aug 2013, 23:29

SleepyWeltonBoy wrote:I have downloaded and installed the rikoooo Airbus A380 which has a VC for FSX. Like yourself, I am inclined to think that the 3D Wilco cockpit has little to be desired, but the gauges do.

To this effect, I have tried replacing the rikoooo gauges with the Wilco ones and have had no luck so far (I am using Prepar3D). The Wilco gauges just simply will not install in the appropriate slots in the rikoooo VC panel. One further thing is that the virtual cockpit is dimmed significantly in Prepard3D with respect to FSX, to the extent that the gauges have to be lit to read them properly. So perhaps we are still waiting for a more acceptable VC for the A380 in FSX and Prepar3D.

Although cringe-worthy, the Wilco 2D cockpit isn't that bad and at least the 3D cockpit does look something like an A380, albeit of rather degraded quality. All I have done is to retain the exterior aircraft model for the Project Airbus A380 (which is quite excellent) but use the interior model for the Wilco A380v2. I have then simply used both the 2D and 3D panels from the Wilco A380v2, retaining the model and flight dynamics of the PA A380, but making necessary tweaks in the aircraft.cfg file to accommodate gauge-related issues with how the flap and slat extensions are defined for the PA model, based on the Wilco settings. The net result is that it does work and very well. A full flight with a flightplan is more than possible, using the Wilco flight management computer, with the merged model.

So for the time being at least something is useable that can be flown in FSX and Prepar3D and let's hope for better things in the future where the A380 is concerned (from Project Airbus, perhaps? That would be good!).
so basically what your saying is that you have the pa380 model with wilco vc and 2d panel, right? well wilco gauges are really good, no doubt. but you see, i'm a bit perfectionist. these are points of view i have:

a.) what i don't like with the vc of pa380? "its because of the fmc (flight management computer, mcdu) and ecams in the middle. Well, that's the 2 things i'm embarrassed of. fsx version of pa380 is known to have lots of bugs. once i tried to integrate "vasFMC gauge' in my pa380 vc, but i ended in a mess."

b.) what i don't like with the vc of wilco a380? "The model is trash, and the vc layout is trash, too. but the gauges are really realistic. likewise i said earlier, i'm a bit of perfectionist, that's why when i saw the vc layout of wilcoa380, i'm a bit disappointed.

c.) when a merge of "PA380 vc/wilco gauges' it wil be different this time. a combination of good exterior model and vc layout of pa380 and nearly-realistic gauges from wilcoa380, that would be excellent!

-seacrh these 2 vids in youtube :"megamerge a380" the ones with "curimedia" and "KENAN" associated names. you'll see what vc i want.. (especially curimedia's work). but right now, no released has been announce to both of this videos.-

oh well, but anyways thanks for your response :D really appreciated it..

Cheers, :) :) :)
markm24
(fsx user since 2010)

P.S. : By the way, the model you downloaded from rikoooo has the panel made by a fellow named "facked". F.Y.I.
Also, i have a merge which is similar to your merge. the merge work of david chen: http://mediafire.com/?ezzv9th1ypwmpd.

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